Episode 77

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16th Jun 2025

#77: Skin to Soul: Redefining Health and Healing Through Fascia with Anna Rahe

Skin to Soul: Redefining Health and Healing Through Fascia

What if the true key to vitality, healing, and resilience isn’t in your muscles or bones—but in the hidden network of connective tissue that holds everything together?

In this transformative episode of Beyond the Pills, we sit down with Anna Rahe, founder of GST Body, fascia-focused wellness innovator, and upcoming author of Skin to Soul. With over 25 years of experience and 10,000+ hours dedicated to studying the body’s connective tissue system, Anna has redefined how we approach healing and human potential.

Anna shares the groundbreaking discovery that fascia—the body’s dynamic, fluid network—is far more than “connective tissue.” It’s the missing link between our physical structure, emotional patterns, and long-term health outcomes. Traditional fitness often focuses on tightening and toning, but Anna’s proprietary GST system promotes fluid, dynamic movement, cellular reprogramming, and holistic vitality.

We explore Anna’s personal journey—how debilitating health issues at just 18 led her to reject conventional medical answers and pioneer a new path to self-healing. From founding GST Body to preparing for the release of her first book and launching the Vital Life Studio, Anna’s mission is clear: to empower people to move better, heal deeper, and live longer.

Plus, Anna gives listeners a sneak peek into her annual GST retreat in Estes Park, Colorado, a transformative event that combines somatic therapy, fascia healing, and holistic body care in one breathtaking setting.

Whether you're struggling with chronic pain, seeking peak performance, or looking to truly thrive as you age, this episode will completely change the way you view your body—and your potential.

Connect with Anna Rahe:

🌐 Website: gstbody.com

📸 Instagram: @annaraheofgst | @gstbody

Upcoming Launches:

📖 Skin to Soul – Coming Soon!

🏕️ Annual GST Retreat – September, Estes Park, CO

Transcript
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Hello, hello.

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Welcome to this episode of

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Beyond the Pills.

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I am Josh Remini,

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pharmacist turned healer.

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And today we are diving into

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a revolutionary

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conversation about a part

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of the body most people

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have never heard of,

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but it holds the key to how we heal, move,

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and even process our emotions.

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Anna Rae is a fascia focused

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wellness innovator with

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over twenty five years

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experience in redefining

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how we care for our bodies.

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She's the founder of GST Body,

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a groundbreaking fascia

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based system designed to restore vitality,

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prevent injury and unlock

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human potential.

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Who does not want all of those?

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Anna's work has been

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spotlighted by Goop League

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and featured in over forty podcasts,

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and now she's preparing to

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launch her first book, Skin to Soul,

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where she reveals how

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fascia is far more than the

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connective tissue.

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It's the bridge between physical health,

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emotional resilience, and true healing.

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Oh, so good.

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If you've ever struggled with chronic pain,

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stress patterns,

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or felt disconnected from

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your body's potential,

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this episode will open your

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eyes to a whole new

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dimension of wellness.

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Welcome, welcome, Anna.

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Thank you.

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Josh, it's so nice to meet you.

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I really appreciate you having me on here.

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It's great.

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Yeah, let's dive in.

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I love reading people's bios

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because it just sets the

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stage for just such an open,

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beautiful conversation.

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Many people don't even know

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what the word fascia is.

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And I've been a student of

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this for a long time in my

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own health journey and my wife's journey.

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But can you just explain to

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the listeners what fascia

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truly is and why it's so critical?

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Yeah, that's such a great question.

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So the term fascia is a generic term.

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I kind of like to say it's a

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broad terminology for a

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type of tissue in the body.

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It's called connective tissue.

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Its most significant form or

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the way that it shows up in

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our health in its greatest

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capacity is as an entire body system.

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So I use those terms,

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connective tissue system and fascia,

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interchangeably.

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But for the listener,

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if you're thinking about

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fascia as a tissue,

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you might want to think

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about it like a fabric.

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of a type of outfit that you're wearing.

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If you are looking at it in the body,

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there's many different

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types of fascia that show

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up and they serve different functions.

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Like you have your myofascia,

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which is the fascia that

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surrounds your muscular skeletal system.

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it's really kind of sturdy

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like burlap and it can

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handle a lot of wear and

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tear and you wear it every

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day it's a wash and go kind

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of a of a tissue it's

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pretty um sturdy but then

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you also have viscera which

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is the fascia of your vital

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organs and it wraps around

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all of these really

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important body parts and

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it's part of your digestive

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system and part of these

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other um aspects of your

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health and wellness and so

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that would be more like

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silk or sateen it's softer

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it's more fragile it's a little bit more

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um uh like glidy and silky

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and it serves for motility

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in your organs and so each

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way that fascia shows up

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plays a specific role in

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its function of the other

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parts of your body so I

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like to talk about fascia

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really from this global

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view of whole body care

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where fascia is organized

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into an entire body system

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similar to your nervous system,

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similar to your digestive

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system or your endocrine system.

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It comes with different organs.

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These organs are not mast

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organs like a heart or like lungs.

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And this is probably why

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fascia has been kind of

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overlooked a lot in the

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medical and in the

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scientific community for many years,

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because it looked like a

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crazy kitty went mad inside with yarn.

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It's like white stuffing everywhere.

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If you peeled back your skin

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and you went inside,

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it doesn't look very ordered

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it doesn't look like a

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heart that's like whoa this

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is big and masked it looks

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really interesting it's

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like oh this is stuffing

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and we need to get it out

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of the way so we can get to

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the most vital parts of the

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anatomy and so it's kind of

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been overlooked but

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nevertheless fascial organs

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are organized based around

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the other body system so

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there's a way that fascia

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organizes around your endocrine system

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around and with your nervous system,

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around and with your digestive system.

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And in this way,

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it becomes one of the most

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significant organs inside your body,

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or not organs,

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one of the most significant

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systems with all of its organs,

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because it's really working

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on the back end of

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physiology to make sure

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that all the other systems

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are working well.

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So the condition of your fascia,

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how healthy it is,

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is influencing all these

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other layers of our physiology.

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That's a great way to,

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I've never heard someone

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really use the analogies of,

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the different types of fashion,

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how they sort of like, people learn,

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I learn,

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we all learn through analogies

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and saying it like that,

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like with the type of fabric that it is,

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because it is kind of like a fabric.

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And when you said burlap in my old fashion,

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it's like, oh,

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I instantly connected to that, right?

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And I've always used,

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and not from the

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perspective that I've learned from it,

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is in the modality of pain, right?

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We're gonna talk about pain

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today and we'll talk about

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why fascia is so important

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to maintaining that balance of pain,

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because if it isn't healthy,

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things go awry.

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And I'd love to talk to you

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a little bit about what

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I've been doing with this space,

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but your personal,

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how the heck did you get into this,

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right?

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It's like, you know,

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Let's talk about your

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personal journey into

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discovering fashion and

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where was the defining

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moment or this missing

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piece in your journey here?

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Because I think it's

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important to understand

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where people came from

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because a lot of the times,

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We connect through story,

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but all the practitioners

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in these beautiful health

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and healing and wellness

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spaces that I'm talking to,

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we all have a personal

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story attached to it.

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And so I'm curious on where

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this all came from,

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because it is kind of a

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thing that people don't really go for,

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right?

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I mean,

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it takes a smoking gun where it's like,

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oh, I...

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I'm a heart guy because I

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did the heart thing.

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Like it's like, it's,

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it's underneath all that.

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So I want to explore your

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story a little bit.

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Okay.

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It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a,

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it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a,

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it's a, it's a,

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really a sense of deep,

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deep pain that was

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multifaceted and so

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complicated that I would go

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to tons of different specialists,

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some for my gastrointestinal problems,

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some for my low back and

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muscular skeletal problems.

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And then I'd go to acupuncturists.

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And then, I mean,

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I like would circle trying

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to get really definitive

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what is wrong with my body.

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What is interesting that

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will probably come up in

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our conversation later is

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that I had gone since I was in fourteen,

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I was in really deep

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therapy for childhood sexual abuse.

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And it wasn't until I was

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actually eighteen that I

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chose to commit to this

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journey of healing.

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I was really seeing I had a

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kind of divining moment where I was like,

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if I don't fix what's

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happening inside of me,

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the emotional and

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psycho-emotional problems I'm having,

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the course of my life will

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really be altered.

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And so I went away and lived

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in a mountain cabin for

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three months and did intensive,

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extensive therapy for trauma healing.

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And it wasn't actually until,

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I was already a dancer and stuff,

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but it wasn't until about

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two to three months after

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this time in Estes Park,

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outside of Rocky Mountain National Park,

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that my body actually

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started showing symptoms.

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And the reason I say this is

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that oftentimes our body

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will be the container and

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the captor and the keeper

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of our of our hurt and our

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wounds and our stress

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without speaking it so that

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you can go on functioning

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and once I was willing to

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say I can create the space

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for you to heal then my

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body started talking and

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when it started talking it

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was the loudest most

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chaotic and really difficult

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conversation that I was

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trying to get my attention to.

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So I would have symptoms

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that were really severe,

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like IBS type symptoms.

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I would have colonoscopies

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and I would have

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radiologists looking at the

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lining and what is

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happening in the CAT scan

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and nothing would show up.

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And then I would have like

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flare ups in one of the

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scarier symptoms was

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my respiratory system.

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And so I would go to a

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pulmonologist and I'd ask them to like,

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look at why my heart was

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not beating right.

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And then my lungs wouldn't

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expand and they would try

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to do breathing tests.

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They'd give me inhalers and

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things just weren't like adding up.

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And every time I brought up other symptoms,

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my specialist would say,

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that's not related.

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and my you know digestive

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doctor would be like that's

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not related and I would go

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to acupuncturist and I

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would get a lot of relief

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that was one of the

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therapies that was really

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telling in this and it kind

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of has a circular story but

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the longer or the shorter

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directive was I would go

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out and my symptoms were

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very volatile which was

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also scary so I would go

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out one day running through

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golden gate park

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I would be keeping like

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seven and a half minute miles as my,

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you know,

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kind of conditioning as a dancer.

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And I would be like in the

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best shape of my life.

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Three days later,

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I would do the exact same

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run and I'd feel like a ten

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pack a day smoker.

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And I was like, what is this?

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Why am I having so much

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problems with these symptoms?

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And I had brain fog.

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I had

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you know, depression.

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So there's a lot of

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different symptoms overlapping.

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And I kept, you know,

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just kind of mental notes.

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And I like,

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it's weird that when I have my

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digestive thing,

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I have this and this also.

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And when I have had clarity

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or when I have stretched like this,

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which is interesting,

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I would have this symptom ease up.

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And so I started seeing very early on a

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um kind of a connection

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between these symptoms and

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I had been certified in

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pilates I is already a yoga

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teacher in a couple

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different disciplines um I

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had quite a bit of you know

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anatomical knowledge um and

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basic physiology like I

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knew about the organs and

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what they did and

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But I was like, it's not this.

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And I was going through this

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like list of what it couldn't be.

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And I'm like, well,

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I don't think this is muscular skeletal.

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I don't think that this is blah, blah,

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blah.

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Cause I would have really

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bad flare ups in my

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fibromyalgia type things.

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And I couldn't like take

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shirts off over my shoulders, my arms,

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and I'd get frozen shoulder

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and I wouldn't know why.

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So all of this to say is

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that it felt chaotic.

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It felt multi-tiered and I

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couldn't point my finger,

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even though I was already a

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working professional,

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and had quite a bit of understanding.

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And one day I just had this download.

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I'm like, could this be fascia?

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And I'm like, wait a second,

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what is fascia?

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I remember it from my Pilates training.

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I remember learning about it.

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And so I just did a deep dive.

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And at the time,

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this is twenty five years ago,

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it was even a little bit

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more covert than it is now.

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Like it was just not very well known.

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And mostly it was known in

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manual therapy circles.

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And I did a Rolfing set of ten.

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I did Heller work.

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And what was really

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interesting in hindsight is

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that I got some benefits,

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but I would also get really

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flared up by certain things

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that were done to my fashion.

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I was like, this is really interesting.

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So I did a twenty five year

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journey to cut this short.

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I did a twenty five year journey,

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basically testing first in

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myself like a lab rat.

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And I would do severe things

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that would antagonize my

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conditions and my pain.

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And I'd study it and I'd be like, why?

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And I'd go home and have

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three hours of relaxation and rolling.

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And that would make me feel better.

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But then I'd get up and go

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to my dance rehearsal and

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everything would flare up.

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And meanwhile,

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I was doing more and more

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studies and I would start charting.

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People tell me to do this

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and it flares me up.

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I go home and do the

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opposite and I'm feeling better.

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Why?

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And so it took a sense of

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courage and like questioning.

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huge experts.

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My dad was able to help me

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go to some of the leading

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experts in the field on

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whatever my issue was.

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And so it took a lot of

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courage for me to own my

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own health and be like, wait a second,

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what you're telling me to do isn't right.

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And if I do this, I'm feeling better.

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So I started collecting the

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things that I was doing and

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then I started teaching it to others.

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I had a Pilates studio at

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the time and I would have

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people fly in from Sweden

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with Crohn's disease and

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this problem and

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inflammation and

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Hashimoto's and all of

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these kind of symptoms.

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And we would work for a

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couple days and their

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symptoms would absolutely

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like cut by fifty, enhance, you know,

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their biofeedback machines

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would be reading differently.

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And I was like, I'm on to something.

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I don't know what it is.

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And it was just like trial and error.

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And I'd be like, OK, well,

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I think this works.

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I think this works.

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And the conclusion of this

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was just after the years of doing this,

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I was like,

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I'm doing something different

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and I need to not canonize it to method.

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I didn't wanna like make it

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rigid and stuff.

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I'm like,

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I need to have this be as open

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and free as what I'm

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learning in the body.

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And so I just said, what am I doing?

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And I started working with

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scientists and bringing it

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into more like laboratory

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and clinical analysis to be like,

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what is happening here?

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And two things stood out.

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Number one,

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fascia has the ability to

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contract on purpose.

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I learned how fascia would

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actually organize in

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contractile patterns to be

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able to make a significant

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impact on how fascia is animating.

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It's a word that I created

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because it's different than stretch.

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Stretching only got me so

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far and tissue animation

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made a huge difference.

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There's all this stuff as to why.

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The second thing we noted is

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that remodeling only

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happens best through heavy

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loads and high repetition and duration,

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which means that manual

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therapy can always be

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managing our condition but

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cannot really be a solution

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for it because our movement,

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the way we inhabit our

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bodies and use our bodies

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is a greater influence over

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the condition of our fascia

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than anything else.

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And so

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Basically, I created a technology.

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There's seven of them that

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are infused with using movement.

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So you know how this you'll

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like this because of all of

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your multiple disciplines

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is that a chiropractor and

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an acupuncturist and a

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massage therapist and an

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osteopath are all doing or

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all using the same tools,

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but with different points of focus.

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They all have a lever.

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That's a stick.

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It's basically a long stick

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that you're going to push force through,

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some type of a force load,

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which could be gravity, could be friction,

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could be traction, could be compression.

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These are all force loads.

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And they're all trying to

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eventually get flow.

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So a chiropractor focuses on

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the skeletal system primarily.

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They like to use your own

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body shapes to configure your levers.

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They drop force into your

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body to get joints to flow.

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Massage therapists use their own levers.

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Osteopaths use the levers of

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their fingers.

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And they apply force to

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either your vital organs or your muscles.

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And they're trying to get

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the muscles to release into

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a state of relaxation and flow.

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And acupuncturists use the

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lever of a needle.

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They stick it into your chi.

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And from there,

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they try to activate the

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meridian to get the chi to flow.

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And so all of these

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disciplines are seeing that

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really movement is,

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whether it's on the

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physiological level of your meridians,

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or if it's on the physical

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level of your muscles and your bones,

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we have to have a continuum

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of motion constantly surging through us.

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And this comes back to what fascia is,

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is that fascia is your energy modulator.

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It's your body's smart grid.

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It's responsible for taking

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high voltage loads from the

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outside to the low voltage

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loads of our physiology,

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the energy that comes off our EKG,

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the way our lungs expand,

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the way cellular

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you know,

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remodeling is happening and it's

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supposed to dampen the big

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voltage and modulate it to

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the little voltage.

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And it starts to move and

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metabolize energy through

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your system and septic

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energy creates disease and

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metabolic problems in the body.

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I guess I'll just say in

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the journey of finding this

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is that we take your body,

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you have five levers and

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And we teach you how to

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align them in these really

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important pathways that

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align fascia to be able to

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get the energy to move and

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flow where the fibers are

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hydrated and being able to move.

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And this changes the science

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for how we address biomechanics.

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And that's the real like

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crux of this is that fascia

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is seventy percent water.

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It is not a solid system.

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And so it behaves under the

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laws of fluid dynamics.

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I don't know how many of

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your listeners would be

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familiar with that,

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but that our biomechanical

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model for sports and

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conditioning and fitness and therapy,

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physical therapy is all

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based upon levers and pulleys.

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And fascia says, wait,

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I'm not a lever pulley system.

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I'm a hydraulic system.

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I am tubes, not sticks.

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And I am seventy percent

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water with fiber lattices

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that actually push and pull

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energy through and across

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the grid rather than trying

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to lock it up.

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And so what I do is I

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basically teach people to

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be their own practitioners

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using movement and the

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configuration of those tools, lever,

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force,

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and flow to be able to heal and

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restore almost any aspect of the body.

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And it's more because of what fascia is.

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It's deeply innervated into our autonomic,

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body systems,

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our nervous system that is

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automatic for us.

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And if you can tap into the

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automatic things on purpose somatically,

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then you have a game

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changer in your health.

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Whoo.

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There's a lot in that to unpack,

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holy moly.

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No, I- I'm a heavy doser.

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No, it's great,

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because the story is so beautiful.

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This is literally the link

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between the energetics, the emotional,

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and the physical.

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Because fascism starts

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psychological loads too.

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Right.

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And when you talked about it

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in the beginning of this segment,

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you were talking about your

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emotional pain,

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your emotional traumas and how it stores.

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We know now that our

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emotions store in our body.

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And then when you release

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that or you're ready to

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release those traumas, then...

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it became evident in the body, right?

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I did this the other day.

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It was funny.

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I was doing an energy extraction.

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I'm doing my shamanic stuff with somebody,

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and I was doing an energy extraction,

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pulling an energy out.

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And what had happened is,

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and we talk in the shamanic world,

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fluid energies and crystallized energies.

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They're sort of different, right?

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Some are fluid and they can just flow out,

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and some are crystallized.

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We've got to do something different.

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I was working with this

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client and what had

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happened was really critical.

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It's so important because I

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just got so much more

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insights of this from this

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conversation because we

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pulled the energy out, but her,

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her hip got,

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worse the next day.

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Like it was like, I w I was like, Oh,

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we're moving that energy.

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And it's, it's now presenting in this way,

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physically it's moving,

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it's ready to come through.

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And we ended up doing a little bit more.

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I wish I had learned about

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the fascia part of this, but it was like,

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literally my intuition told

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me to crystallize the

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energy and move that out in

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a different way.

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And we did.

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And it resolved within two days.

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But it was really

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interesting that we were moving energy,

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which created the physical ailment,

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which then,

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but that makes sense because

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it is flowing and moving.

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And now I kind of,

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it's funny how we talk

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about the fascia linking everything.

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This is linked the way that

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I experienced that now in a

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different way.

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So that was really cool.

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Well,

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it's cool to understand that your

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crystallization of energy,

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even if you're able to

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modulate it and metabolize it out,

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the fibers that are actual structure,

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right?

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They're not the energetics.

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They were holding the energetics.

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You still have to remodel

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the structure that was containing it.

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right yeah and that's two

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days to move out at least

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yeah this is why multimodal

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practitioners are are so

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important because we can

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move energies but then the

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fascia and I love that the

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your analogy of like the

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fluid dynamics and it being

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seventy percent water

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because most people are

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thinking it's this this

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rigid network it's they

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just keep dynamic and most

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people that I've worked

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with with fascia are always

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concerned about the stretching and the

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That kind of component only,

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when I learned about fascia,

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it was because I was going

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through pain management

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certifications with

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compounding because we can

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move certain cool,

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awesome modality pain

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creams into the fascia to

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interact with it in different ways.

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from the nerve component

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side of it and doing that.

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So it's like all of it's

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kind of coming full circle.

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I loved how we connected the, the body,

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the mind and the spirit

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into where this stuff is.

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It's almost like the

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connection between like

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energy and physical, right?

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It's like right here and

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it's right in that space.

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So that's so cool.

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It's super cool.

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I also love that we, you,

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you talked about the, um,

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just in your process of your,

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I call it the wounded healer's journey,

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right?

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Your journey of twenty-five years of,

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one of the philosophies

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I've had with the

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practitioners that I mentor

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is do you first, right?

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When you're in a wellness-based

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thing.

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It's,

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we don't prescribe this without

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having gone through it, right?

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Like doing these things.

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And I love that your journey,

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it's very similar.

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It's like,

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you're taking this piece that you learned,

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and you're taking this

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piece that you learned,

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and then you're taking this

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piece that you learned,

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and you're just blending it

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into this thing that

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becomes Anna Ray's thing,

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where you're just becoming this whole,

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I call it like a five D puzzle, right?

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You know, my puzzle has been, you know,

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pharmacist, cancer survivor,

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turn functional medicine guy,

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turn nutritionist, turn energy healer.

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Like I just put all of them

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together to create what

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works in the space that I work.

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And I love that you kind of

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over these twenty five

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years that you your journey

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has gotten you to this.

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this place where it's just

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keep folding for you it

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keeps becoming something

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that's more I never say

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change anymore I just say

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it's been this evolution

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and that evolution has

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become this beautiful thing

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that you've done through

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your Pilates and all the

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other components of yoga

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and learning about the

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fashion and going down into

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the science and learning from that,

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learning from the scientific,

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because backed by science

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is a big thing for me.

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And now we're, yeah,

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but we're moving now into

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the realm of like,

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Quantum and healing in these

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different energetic places

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where we're merging.

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This is why it's beautiful

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for this conversation,

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because this podcast is the

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merging of ancient wisdom

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and modern science put together,

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not one or the other.

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Right.

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We're not going to the

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acupuncturist only and

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we're not going to the physical doctor.

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Like we're blending all this

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together to get that deeper

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understanding of both and not or.

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So I love how you shared with that.

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Let's get into this system

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that you've GST and looking

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at what you're doing,

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because I think let's tie

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it up in this way where

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what are you doing with folks?

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You said I teach people.

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What is this process that

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you take people through?

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Well,

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I think that I just you said some

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really nice things I wanted

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to just highlight,

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which kind of leads into that story,

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which is I also tell people

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and especially practitioners,

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you can only heal,

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offer the healing to others

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that you have experienced in yourself.

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And so more than just how

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much training we get,

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it's that is important and it's knowledge,

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but it's actually the infusion.

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It's you distilling that.

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the healing in you where you

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share not just the

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knowledge or the facts and

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the stuff you know,

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it's that you're sharing yourself.

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And so in GST,

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what's really interesting is

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I tried all these other

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modalities and they're not a hybrid.

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It's not like I've taken everything.

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It's like, I only kept,

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I only found and sought the

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things that actually worked, right?

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So it's like what you're saying,

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that distillation process of like,

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Yes, this could be a principle that's,

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you know, true, right?

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Like solid mechanics works.

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But if it doesn't work in

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all these applications,

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it becomes less relevant.

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And so I think that the goal

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is to be able to also not

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just have the knowledge,

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but be doing the work.

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because I've been treated by

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healers that are very knowledgeable,

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but they haven't actually done,

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they haven't integrated.

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They haven't done the transformation.

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And so in a way,

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it's a refinement process

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where you're clearing the dross.

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I talk about this even if

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it's in a personal journey

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where your struggle,

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the warrior's journey you

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talk about is it heats you.

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It puts you under the fire

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of change and it removes the impurities.

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It removes the non-essentials.

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It removes the things that

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aren't really there.

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going to heal you.

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And then it leaves the gold.

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It leaves who you are after the healing.

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It leaves the, the,

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power in you to be able to share.

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And that is really what is healing people,

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right?

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It's not you doing it on someone,

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it's you stepping ahead and

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sharing the thing that healed you, right?

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And that's why you go before.

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So profound in the way you said it too,

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is because that is the,

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it's not the blueprint.

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It's literally, you know, the formula,

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the formula.

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It's like not one formula,

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but it's the formula for healing.

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the difference between

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practicing medicine and healing, right?

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When there's a practitioner

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versus a healer.

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Yeah, and I resonate so much because

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these healing journeys we've gone through.

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Now it's like we can speak

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through empathy.

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We can speak through experience.

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We don't speak through tech.

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And this has been a learning curve for me,

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Mr. Technical everything, right?

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Going through the science of

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all of it and moving it

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into this space of like,

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like heal yourself and also

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be compelled to heal others,

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these callings that we have.

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So that's such a beautiful,

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elegant way to say that.

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So thank you for bringing

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that up because that is the

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true essence to me too,

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is like the difference

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between a practitioner and

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what we're doing when we

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talk about healing.

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Because for me, I don't know about you,

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but like I'm in the

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business of transformation

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and healing now.

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I don't want to be into...

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you know,

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the pill for the ill or the

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symptom resolution anymore.

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It's like empowering people,

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like we're not doing the stuff to them.

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We're there to be the facilitator,

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the guide in their journey

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and empowerment.

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We talked about this a few

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times in this conversation

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is empowering ourselves to

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be in the driver's seat.

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And there's just another beautiful reason.

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When looking at your own

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journey and doing your own journey,

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this is for the lay person

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or for the practitioner who

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wants to bring more to their practices,

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that doing the healing is

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what actually builds both empathy, right?

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You then have this space where you're like,

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I understand your pain in a way that

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And that's actually where

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we're gonna work.

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And it's a guide to say

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where you wanna jump into

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and be with people.

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And then when you're actually tapping in,

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and I think you know this

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from your shamanic work, which is,

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you're actually like,

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it's almost a conduit where

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there's an exchange.

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You're not just dealing with their energy,

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you're the infusion, right?

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You're saying,

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let me guide from the place

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that I'm holding and the

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place that I want you to

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get some of this energy.

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I don't know about you,

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but I did a lot of energy work

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both on people and stuff.

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And I can't do it more than

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like maybe a session, maybe two,

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if it's strictly energy,

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because it's just because of the exchange,

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the exchange of energy of what you're,

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it's almost like a state of

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gifting energy.

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the space and the information.

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When you start looking at fascia,

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fascia is an information system.

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It's a communication and a

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sensory information system.

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And so you're literally exchanging,

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fascia also acts like a membrane.

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So it's transitional, it's permeable.

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And so when you lay your hands on someone,

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you're opening up the

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fascial membrane of both

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consciousness sensorily and

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neurologically,

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to be able to infuse information.

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And that is why you have to

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be healed because you don't

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want to put your unhealed

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energy into a person you're

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trying to heal.

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It doesn't make any sense.

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I've never had a

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conversation about fascia

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like this before.

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It's so amazing because

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we're interconnecting this

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energetics that we're

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learning more in the science.

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When we're

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we're looking at this,

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this is not woo anymore.

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Like this is quantum mechanics.

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Like we're talking about

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frequency matching.

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And when healers have gone

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through their own healing

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journey and they're matched

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and sometimes they're just like,

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I'm a cancer survivor in some reason.

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I know like people are coming now.

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They're finding me to help

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them in different ways because they're

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for whatever reason,

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there's this energetic match, right?

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And so when people think of

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that as like totally just woo, it's like,

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no, we're actually,

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we're proving that this in

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our West world brains,

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like there's a frequency

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match that just happens.

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And that's where that

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interconnected play comes from.

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So I love that you're

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connecting this in the physical realm.

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Or I'd like to say it's not

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in the energetic realm.

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it's fascia I would like to

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just say like I saw it but

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I it's fascia that is the

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connection which is why I

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get so excited about it

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because I'm like I I I kind of

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I, in my heart,

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I'm a philosopher and a sage and in my,

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you know, like, you know,

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wanting to help my body,

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I'm like a scientist and I'm like, oh,

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this isn't actually either or, right?

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It's this beautiful and the

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only reason that we can

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physically explain some of

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this stuff now is through

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the connective tissue system.

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It's not a miraculous system.

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It's still biologically a

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carbon life system,

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but what it houses and what

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it facilitates is pretty profound.

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Yeah, well,

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it's just it's kind of like

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when you see I just have

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this like I like thought in my like,

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how do you exactly what it is?

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It's like fashion is like

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it's the interconnection of

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the realm of the energetic

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realm into the body.

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And we've also connected it with emotion.

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And so it's body, mind, spirit.

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It's like this.

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This is how it all works, guys.

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It's so cool.

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Yeah.

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so let's get back to how you

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the how you work with

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people I want people to

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understand like because

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this is it's it's super

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breakthrough I love this

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stuff and it's it's how do

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people work with you what

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what what type of offers do

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you like what type of

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programs are you doing do

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you one-on-one is it group is it online

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I have it all.

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Yes, you say yes.

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We all do nowadays, right?

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We have yes.

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I really love working with people.

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I love working with people

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in my studio here.

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This is also where we have

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an online studio.

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I was scared in twenty twenty.

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I closed my studio in L.A.

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in twenty nineteen, not because of COVID,

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but because I was

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transitioning in the in the

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business and I had lost my lease.

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And I was like,

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what's the next step for me?

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So I closed the physical

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studio and we did go

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digital November of twenty nineteen.

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And then sure enough, like COVID happened.

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It was a miracle that I was

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kind of two months ahead of the curve.

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But I really missed people.

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We are first human with

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spiritual potential and we

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will become spiritual,

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but we have to remember

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that the physicality of who

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we are is deeply spiritual

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in that it's the embryo

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state of ourselves.

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And so I want to work with

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people in the body because

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I think that that is where

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we work out our spiritual journeys.

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And so

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I miss that, but I do see people.

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They tend to come in and fly

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in to see me now.

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I see some people locally.

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So I was really happy in

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twenty twenty when I

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discovered that GST

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actually translates through

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the screen in a really vital,

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extremely unique way.

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It's not really like exercise and fitness,

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even though a lot of people

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associate movement with fitness.

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It's really translating, we call it like,

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you know,

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body manipulation or tissue

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manipulation through movement.

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We use movement to do

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serious cellular remodeling

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following these very basic principles,

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scientific-based principles

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of how fascia and other

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cells remodel themselves

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and start to proliferate

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and keep healthy.

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And it's based upon the water.

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So it ends up that fascia

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remodels based upon how the

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water is moving through the aqueducts.

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It's the water being

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displaced that actually

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lights up and pushes and

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pressurizes the cell to

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make it want to either

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you know, be discarded or reinstated.

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So we can do a lot of our

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cellular remodeling and

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it's through movement.

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So it translated and I was really happy.

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So you can find us online

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doing just videos that are very,

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like we have learned videos

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that will teach you all the principles.

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It will teach you how to be

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your practitioner.

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I'm really passionate about

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education because I think that the very

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foundation of transformation

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and change doesn't start

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just with the understanding,

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but with the action of what can I do?

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And most people can do like

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five really simple things

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that will immediately

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change the state of their fascia,

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the state of their body

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following generic laws.

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people so that they can,

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even like one of the things

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that's really fun is that

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GST teaches you how to work

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with an acupuncturist.

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where you,

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while you're receiving treatment,

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will amplify the treatment

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by how you behave in your tissues.

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When you go to a chiropractor,

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you work with the chiropractor.

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So you almost become this

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partner in your health in a

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way that you're not being worked on,

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but you're being worked with.

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that and be able to help

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share that because you want to amplify.

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Fascia gives you the

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accessibility to make all

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of your treatments,

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all of your modalities,

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whether it's a workout,

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whether it's your therapies,

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whether it's your psychologies,

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and it will actually infuse

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it and make those

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treatments more bioavailable.

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The healthier your fascia,

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the more bioavailable your

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other treatments become.

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And you would know this, I think,

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from your state as a pharmacist,

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the way that the medicines

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break down and how they

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affect into the tissues and

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distribute is really based

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upon the connection of

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parts and how they're

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delivered to the different

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organs and stuff.

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I don't know as much as you do,

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but that is set up by the

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tensegrity and the

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tensemetry of your

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connective tissue system.

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I'm going to explore that

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one because I'm big on

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bioavailability with

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nutrition and doing some

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really cool stuff with my nano emulsions.

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This is a whole other next level.

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How do you move this into that space?

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Is there a website that

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people can go to or do you

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want Instagram?

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Where do people find you?

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That's what I do.

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That's the company.

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there's a lot of different

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places to land.

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We have the online studio.

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We do programs where I

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actually work with you in regular.

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They're like kind of

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concierge care and we can

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deal with anything.

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I also collaborate with

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other doctors and

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professionals like yourself

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where I'll help people

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navigate their own journey.

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So come to GST Body.

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and poke around and then follow.

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We have Anna Rae.

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You spell my name.

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That's why it's hard for me

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to always give Anna Rae

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because it doesn't sound

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like it's spelled.

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It's A-N-N-A Ra-H-E, R-A-H-E,

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pronounced Rae,

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of GST is our Instagram and GST body.

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So you can come and get like

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body tips and all of that

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like good fascia care stuff

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from GST body and then

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you'll get lifestyle kind

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of hacks in the way that

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they integrate because one

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of the most profound ways

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that fascia asks us to

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reorient our relationship

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to self is that we always

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think about things and

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really like even our

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treatments even if they're

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integrated in mentality

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it's like I have a doctor

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for this I have an

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integrated I have an

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acupuncturist for this and

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fascia says stop thinking

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big block chunks don't you don't need

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your food in big block

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chunks and you shouldn't

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exercise and do your

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movement in big block chunks.

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And so it says,

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infuse me into your daily activity.

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And it actually wants like

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regular micro dosing of

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movement every thirty to

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forty five minutes.

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You find a way to make the

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world your jungle gym and

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you go out and this is some

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of the stuff I go over with you.

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It's like these really fun

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like ways to catch in

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because ninety percent of

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people have fascial dysfunction.

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It's because of our modern lives.

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It is because of our diet.

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It's because of the sitting primarily,

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which creates like glycogen deficiency.

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type activities,

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which is the same as what

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adrenal stress is doing.

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And so all of a sudden

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fashion wants you to like

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integrate it into your daily life.

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It's super easy and it feels

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so good that you start craving it.

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And so those are those,

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you can come and learn those things.

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I'm not being very clear in my,

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I should just have them say one place.

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No, it's good.

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You're on Instagram, gstbody.com, right?

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Yep.

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GST body.

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And you're going to put

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these in the show notes,

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which would be gstbody.com.

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And I want to,

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I want to clear it before we

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like wrap up here.

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It's like,

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it's really important.

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We've, we've, we've now there's,

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this is a whole next level

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way of why movement is, is important,

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right?

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Like I always say,

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sitting is the new smoking because it is,

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it's actually better for

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you to sit for too long,

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but this is a whole nother inter,

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it's not movement just to move.

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So I have a whole different

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way to talk about movement

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with my clients now and

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and have a great referral

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system because here I have

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a chronic pain patient and

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I'm doing compounding and

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wellness and all that.

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And it's like, great,

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we need to collaborate to

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send people to you or other

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places because it all fits into the pie.

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It does.

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Before we leave, you have a book coming.

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I want to talk to people.

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It's called Skin to Soul.

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Give us a little preview of

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that and maybe when it's coming out.

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Great.

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Hopefully, sometime in the early, I think,

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next year,

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it's written and it's getting ready.

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So it is just really walking

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people through the very beginning.

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I noticed that most people

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don't live embodied lives.

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And we basically live skin forward.

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And we never really jump into who we are.

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Fascia is your organ of body consciousness,

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the way the brain is the

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organ of mind consciousness.

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And they work together to

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really create a sense of

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self and who you are and

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what you are in the world.

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And so I start on this very basic,

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here's what fascia is,

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here's the physiology,

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here's why you should care,

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how it's related to your life,

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your health, your mental health,

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your plans for the future, your aging.

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And then we really go down

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into why fascia becomes

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significant as a way of understanding

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real biomechanics,

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I like to kind of borrow

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from the idea of movement,

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where it's like we don't

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really have life mechanics

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for how to handle life.

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And fascia has this really

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parallel line of I handle your loads,

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I metabolize them into freedom.

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and health.

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And if you apply these same

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principles to the stress

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loads of your life,

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the ways that you are being

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captive by the hardships

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that life is throwing at you,

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the struggles you have,

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you will find freedom and flow.

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And so it's kind of this

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beautiful poetises of

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fascist continuum of how it

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can revolutionize our health,

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our wellness, and our spiritual journey.

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I love that.

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I've learned so much today.

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Thank you.

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This has been...

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We could go on and on.

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I totally have more things to do.

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But when that book comes,

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we'll do another episode

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just to highlight that so

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we can help support each

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other in those spaces.

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I think this was a very

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valuable lesson for me,

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especially learning about

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this in such a different way.

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different light so thank you

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for bringing this light to

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to us to the world and and

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it's so evident to see you

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and shine and how you're

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talking about this stuff

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like you are in your true

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essence you're in your true

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wholeness you you just look

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and feel like this is your

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zone of genius and you know

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it so it's so cool I can't

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wait to start diving in a

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little more on this subject

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And you call me anytime.

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I would love to chat with you.

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It sounds I didn't even get

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to know all that you do.

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I did a lot of research

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before I came on because I was like,

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what an interesting guy.

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This is so great.

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And I love that you're

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opening up this platform to

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people who just this is

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just another way to get

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through to the mission of

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like de-prescribing unnecessary medicines,

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right?

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Medications, not medicines,

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but like we can work in

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this like what you teach

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people is free or low cost, right?

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Once they learn these things,

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you just do it.

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Zero.

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Right.

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And that is the beauty of all this.

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It's like we have these innate things.

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Your body wants to do it.

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So Anna Rae, you are amazing.

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Thank you so much.

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You're welcome.

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Thank you for having me.

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You've been such a good,

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just a good guest.

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And I think this is just the beginning,

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not the end.

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We'll do more together.

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All right.

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This is a wrap, everyone.

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Until then, stay well.

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Beyond the Pills
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