#89: The Molecule of Healing: How Nitric Oxide Could Be the Missing Link in Modern Wellness
The Molecule of Healing: How Nitric Oxide Could Be the Missing Link in Modern Wellness
In this powerhouse episode of Beyond the Pills, we welcome Beth Shirley, RPh, CCN—a trailblazer in integrative pharmacy with over 40 years of experience at the intersection of pharmaceutical science and clinical nutrition.
Beth has worked alongside some of the world’s top thought leaders in nitric oxide research and is now on a mission to educate the world on why Nitric Oxide (NO) is the foundation of all healing. As the current Director of Education and Research at Approved Medical Solutions, Beth has not only formulated the first oxalate-free nitrate supplement to optimize nitric oxide, but also pioneered patent-winning formulations that enhance sexual vitality and holistic well-being.
Whether you're a high-performing entrepreneur, a healthcare innovator, or someone looking to take ownership of your health, this episode offers eye-opening insights into:
- Why NO (Nitric Oxide) is essential for cellular repair, immunity, energy, and longevity
- How to combat the hidden epidemic of NO deficiency
- Her patented product “Signal” and the science behind increasing sexual desire and pleasure
- What most practitioners still overlook when it comes to real integrative healing
- How companies can future-proof their workforce by investing in vitality, not just benefits
Beth doesn’t just talk theory—she’s helped formulate next-generation wellness solutions like Libby, a line focused on sexual health and vitality, and High Maintenance, a game-changing gut health product targeting food-borne pathogens with bacteriophage technology.
💡 Key takeaway: “Without adequate Nitric Oxide, you will not—and cannot—heal.”
If you’re ready to go beyond the band-aid approach and explore how biochemical vitality is the real edge in business, life, and healing—this episode is for you.
🩺 Learn more:
- www.approvedmedicalsolutions.com (Use code BEYONDTHEPILLS)
- www.withlibby.com
- Connect with Beth on LinkedIn
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Transcript
Welcome, welcome.
Speaker:Welcome to this episode of
Speaker:Beyond the Pills,
Speaker:the show that goes beyond
Speaker:symptom management to
Speaker:explore the root cause of healing, body,
Speaker:mind, and spirit.
Speaker:I'm your host, Josh Remini,
Speaker:pharmacist turned healer.
Speaker:And today I'm joined by a
Speaker:trailblazer in the evolving
Speaker:world of integrative pharmacy,
Speaker:Beth Shirley.
Speaker:She's not only a pharmacist,
Speaker:but she's a clinical nutritionist.
Speaker:She spent over forty years
Speaker:at the forefront of
Speaker:pharmacy and nutrition,
Speaker:pioneering what we now know
Speaker:as integrative and functional pharmacy.
Speaker:The crossroads of
Speaker:traditional medicine
Speaker:blended with this targeted
Speaker:nutritional supplementation.
Speaker:Since two thousand and nine,
Speaker:she's worked alongside the
Speaker:world renowned nitric oxide researchers.
Speaker:We're going to get into that
Speaker:today and becoming one of
Speaker:the most trusted voices in that field.
Speaker:She currently serves as the
Speaker:director of education and
Speaker:research at Approved Medical Solutions,
Speaker:and she's the formulator
Speaker:behind a number of cutting
Speaker:edge supplement innovations,
Speaker:including the first oxalate
Speaker:free nitrate supplement.
Speaker:that optimizes nitric oxide
Speaker:and the patented product in
Speaker:her Libby lineup to
Speaker:increase sexual desire and pleasure.
Speaker:Beth joins us today to share
Speaker:that core message that
Speaker:underpins all of her work.
Speaker:Nitric oxide is the
Speaker:foundation of all healing.
Speaker:Without it, the body cannot recover,
Speaker:regenerate, or thrive.
Speaker:We'll also dive in and
Speaker:explore how her work is
Speaker:helping high-performing entrepreneurs,
Speaker:one of my favorite avatars,
Speaker:and companies that
Speaker:future-proof their health
Speaker:and workforce through
Speaker:concierge-level wellness strategies.
Speaker:Welcome to the show, Beth.
Speaker:Thanks for having me.
Speaker:I love just reading those
Speaker:bios because it just sets
Speaker:the stage for an amazing conversation.
Speaker:You're one of my unicorn friends, right?
Speaker:You're a pharmacist turned
Speaker:to clinical nutritionist,
Speaker:turned to wellness and this
Speaker:well-care model.
Speaker:So let's dive in.
Speaker:Let's talk about this
Speaker:because I think we're at
Speaker:this pivotal moment in our
Speaker:not only our lives and our
Speaker:professions but the world
Speaker:and we've got these budding
Speaker:pharmacies that are looking
Speaker:to do this stuff right
Speaker:we've both been on that
Speaker:stage and talking and
Speaker:teaching uh those
Speaker:pharmacists how they can be
Speaker:more than pharmacists
Speaker:hence beyond the pills in my way.
Speaker:But yeah, let's get down to your story,
Speaker:your journey.
Speaker:You've had such a long and
Speaker:impactful career in pharmacy.
Speaker:What really inspired you to
Speaker:pivot into the integrative
Speaker:nutrition and diving that
Speaker:into nitric oxide research?
Speaker:Well,
Speaker:I became a pharmacist because I
Speaker:thought I was going to be
Speaker:able to help people.
Speaker:And after twenty years of
Speaker:seeing them come back
Speaker:sicker and sicker on more and more drugs,
Speaker:in nineteen ninety seven,
Speaker:I became a certified
Speaker:clinical nutritionist.
Speaker:So I became the pharmacist
Speaker:to go to if you wanted to
Speaker:get off the meds or not
Speaker:even go down that road to begin with.
Speaker:And people were hungry for
Speaker:that kind of information.
Speaker:So I started monthly women's
Speaker:health seminars and I did
Speaker:that for for fifteen years
Speaker:at People's Pharmacy here in Austin.
Speaker:So just- Yeah,
Speaker:they were my first run when
Speaker:I was getting into clinical
Speaker:nutrition and learning and
Speaker:going through the CCN pathway.
Speaker:was just they were like they
Speaker:embodied it because like
Speaker:all their pharmacists like
Speaker:you were the the genesis in
Speaker:there right like all their
Speaker:pharmacists were ccns it
Speaker:was like this beautiful
Speaker:thing happening um we know
Speaker:that that's no longer but
Speaker:like that it was so cool to
Speaker:hear that origin story
Speaker:because I had followed them
Speaker:for years just modeling my
Speaker:own vision around what is
Speaker:possible you know and it's
Speaker:like then we had our
Speaker:conversation a few weeks
Speaker:ago and I was like oh yeah
Speaker:you were right there in the
Speaker:the genesis of it, like the birth of that.
Speaker:That's just so cool.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:I love full circle conversations.
Speaker:So you were in,
Speaker:you were in it like kind of
Speaker:like right at that beginning with them,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I was the one that put all
Speaker:the vitamins in there.
Speaker:I started like the seminars.
Speaker:I was teaching the
Speaker:practitioners here in Austin,
Speaker:how to do bioidentical
Speaker:hormones and helping like
Speaker:some doctors set up their
Speaker:cash only business doing you
Speaker:know starting off with the
Speaker:bioidentical hormones and
Speaker:then they've kind of
Speaker:branched out from there but
Speaker:they they started with the
Speaker:bioidentical hormones
Speaker:Yeah, and that's, it's still like,
Speaker:I don't want to call it the trend.
Speaker:It's like where things are
Speaker:keep evolving now,
Speaker:but like you're speaking
Speaker:like the same language that
Speaker:I spoke in my twenty years
Speaker:of this is like learning to
Speaker:go beyond and like getting
Speaker:people off medications and
Speaker:being the pharmacist that
Speaker:people turns to to, you know,
Speaker:reverse and get de-prescribed things.
Speaker:That's our mission on Beyond
Speaker:the Pills here, right?
Speaker:And so it's fun how these
Speaker:these conversations now come full circle,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:Like here we are, twenty years later,
Speaker:looking at this in these new lights.
Speaker:You've you've done this for
Speaker:decades and you've changed
Speaker:this in the field of pharmacy.
Speaker:And, you know,
Speaker:I just want to talk about
Speaker:how you kind of move.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:we'll talk about where you think
Speaker:the profession is going,
Speaker:because I think that's a
Speaker:good piece for our conversation,
Speaker:because we both share the RPH title.
Speaker:But you've said that nitric
Speaker:oxide is the base for all healing.
Speaker:And for those like new to that concept,
Speaker:what is nitric oxide and
Speaker:why is it so foundation?
Speaker:Well,
Speaker:nitric oxide is a very simple molecule.
Speaker:It's just a nitrogen and oxygen.
Speaker:It's a gas, but it governs.
Speaker:Circulation and microcirculation.
Speaker:So that means it touches
Speaker:every single physiological process.
Speaker:Because you've got to have
Speaker:that microcirculation open
Speaker:in order to deliver oxygen, glucose,
Speaker:and nutrients to the cell,
Speaker:and just as importantly,
Speaker:carry away the cellular debris.
Speaker:So all chronic illness has
Speaker:at its base impaired circulation.
Speaker:So nitric oxide is the base
Speaker:of all healing.
Speaker:Because if you've got impaired circulation,
Speaker:doesn't matter what you're doing,
Speaker:nothing's going to be able
Speaker:to get to where it needs to go.
Speaker:The word that came to me
Speaker:with that is like movement.
Speaker:right?
Speaker:If things aren't moving in
Speaker:the right places, in the right spaces,
Speaker:you have no,
Speaker:like it's one of the key
Speaker:foundations of functional
Speaker:medicine is transport, right?
Speaker:And so that makes total sense,
Speaker:but you got to think about that, right?
Speaker:You got to think about it in that light.
Speaker:Like if you can't move the
Speaker:right things in and move
Speaker:the wrong things out, where are you?
Speaker:You're stuck.
Speaker:You're in the mud, right?
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:So it touches our cardiovascular system.
Speaker:Learning and memory is
Speaker:nitric oxide mediated.
Speaker:Kidney function, nitric oxide mediated.
Speaker:Look at chronic kidney disease.
Speaker:It's rampant these days.
Speaker:Our eyes, our sight,
Speaker:nitric oxide mediated.
Speaker:Our hormones,
Speaker:you've got to have nitric
Speaker:oxide in the hypothalamus
Speaker:in order to make your
Speaker:gonadotropin-releasing hormone
Speaker:which then goes to the
Speaker:pituitary to make your LH and your FSH,
Speaker:which then goes down to
Speaker:your gonads to make your sex steroids.
Speaker:Our immune system,
Speaker:like nitric oxide is our
Speaker:first defense against pathogens, virus,
Speaker:bacteria, fungi.
Speaker:What I'm really hearing is
Speaker:if it isn't working,
Speaker:nothing's really working.
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:Pharmacists have this unique
Speaker:ability to make complex
Speaker:things simple for people.
Speaker:That's just one of the things I love.
Speaker:It's like we could go lofty
Speaker:for the practitioners listening,
Speaker:but it's really simple.
Speaker:It's like if things aren't
Speaker:moving and it's one of
Speaker:those things that needs to
Speaker:happen for other things to
Speaker:need to happen.
Speaker:So we're talking upstream, right?
Speaker:Upstream medicine.
Speaker:But what got you there?
Speaker:I love origin stories.
Speaker:How in the hell did you get
Speaker:to the place where you're like,
Speaker:this is who I am and why I do what I do?
Speaker:Because I love how people
Speaker:find through their
Speaker:synchronicities and through the things.
Speaker:So how did you get so
Speaker:involved in nitric oxide support?
Speaker:Well, the company Human, H-U-M-A-N-N,
Speaker:they were one of the first
Speaker:companies to make
Speaker:like a nitrite supplement.
Speaker:Most supplements for nitric
Speaker:oxide before that were just
Speaker:arginine and citrulline.
Speaker:But they were close to my pharmacy.
Speaker:So, you know,
Speaker:as they were trying to put
Speaker:together this formulation,
Speaker:they'd come in and have me, like,
Speaker:test out products and stuff,
Speaker:and I would help them with
Speaker:the formulations.
Speaker:And so it was with the Neo
Speaker:Forti lozenge that I got
Speaker:involved in nitric oxide in
Speaker:two thousand and nine.
Speaker:So for the listeners that
Speaker:are kind of moving through
Speaker:this because my mechanism
Speaker:went into my head a little
Speaker:bit like talk a little bit about.
Speaker:citrulline arginine because
Speaker:people I think heard of
Speaker:arginine before like as a
Speaker:supplement for you know
Speaker:boosting energy and things
Speaker:like that and then we were
Speaker:talking nitrites like like
Speaker:food based or some based
Speaker:because that's how we get
Speaker:nitric oxide support right
Speaker:we again we can eat these
Speaker:things and we'll talk about
Speaker:your formulation because I
Speaker:think it's awesome um but you know
Speaker:talk people through that
Speaker:because I think when we're pick,
Speaker:we got to talk a little bit about,
Speaker:we talked a little bit
Speaker:about why nitric oxide is so important.
Speaker:And I think we'll touch upon
Speaker:that probably a hundred
Speaker:times in this conversation,
Speaker:because it literally, you know,
Speaker:everybody goes like,
Speaker:can I take the supplement
Speaker:for that or for that?
Speaker:And it's like, if we talk about why that,
Speaker:that is happening,
Speaker:we can move it up and we
Speaker:can move it up the stream.
Speaker:to get it to where we don't
Speaker:have to worry about that if
Speaker:everything falls into place.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:It's like two furs and three furs.
Speaker:I love those.
Speaker:But what you mentioned,
Speaker:those other entities.
Speaker:Let's talk about that,
Speaker:because I think it's really
Speaker:important for people to
Speaker:discern their own
Speaker:information rather than
Speaker:just listening to people
Speaker:that have done it forever.
Speaker:So arginine, citrulline,
Speaker:like tell me a little bit
Speaker:about why we've used those
Speaker:in the past and why this
Speaker:has evolved into something
Speaker:much smoother and easier.
Speaker:Well,
Speaker:we've got two ways we can make nitric
Speaker:oxide.
Speaker:And one is through the arginine, NOS,
Speaker:nitric oxide synthase
Speaker:enzyme to make nitric oxide.
Speaker:And the other is through the
Speaker:nitrate to nitrite to
Speaker:nitric oxide pathway.
Speaker:As we age,
Speaker:that NOS enzyme does not
Speaker:function very well.
Speaker:In fact, by the time we're forty,
Speaker:it's only functioning about
Speaker:fifty percent.
Speaker:By the time we're sixty,
Speaker:it's only functioning about
Speaker:fifteen percent.
Speaker:And so many that's a real
Speaker:sensitive enzyme and so
Speaker:many things interfere with that enzyme.
Speaker:Like the standard American diet,
Speaker:the lack of exercise,
Speaker:drugs like antibiotics.
Speaker:birth control pills that's
Speaker:why they don't like women
Speaker:over the age of thirty five
Speaker:taking birth control pills
Speaker:is because of the
Speaker:cardiovascular
Speaker:complications NSAIDs your
Speaker:ibuprofen interferes with
Speaker:that enzyme SSRI
Speaker:antidepressants interferes
Speaker:with that enzyme pollution
Speaker:glyphosate glyphosate is
Speaker:everywhere EMF like the the
Speaker:radiation we get from our
Speaker:phones from wi-fi from our
Speaker:computers it makes that
Speaker:enzyme not functional
Speaker:stress is a big one oh yeah
Speaker:like I always talk about
Speaker:stress with people right
Speaker:yeah you're saying kind of like
Speaker:Well,
Speaker:what you're looking at is we know
Speaker:that we have environmental toxicities.
Speaker:Yes, glyphosate, Roundup,
Speaker:it's in everything.
Speaker:Everything here, right?
Speaker:Even if you're clean,
Speaker:it's still in your body.
Speaker:That's why we test for it now.
Speaker:But these factors in a modern-day world,
Speaker:plus our modern-day...
Speaker:lifestyle, right?
Speaker:High-stressed, crappy food, not sleeping.
Speaker:All of this affects the NOS system,
Speaker:which affects one of the
Speaker:pathways that we need to
Speaker:get nitric oxide.
Speaker:And then the raw ingredients
Speaker:of that pathway are these
Speaker:substances we talked about.
Speaker:So if we're deficient in that pathway,
Speaker:why feed the pathway,
Speaker:I guess is what you're saying.
Speaker:Well, no, that pathway is not functional.
Speaker:So when you're feeding it this arginine.
Speaker:It's not going to do anything.
Speaker:Well, it actually could be dangerous.
Speaker:Okay, talk to people about that.
Speaker:The arginine can go down other pathways.
Speaker:Like it can increase ADMA,
Speaker:asymmetric dimethyl arginine,
Speaker:which is actually connected
Speaker:to all-cause mortality.
Speaker:It can make more ammonia.
Speaker:can make more urea,
Speaker:which is not what we want.
Speaker:But one other thing that
Speaker:interferes with that enzyme
Speaker:too is the spike protein in
Speaker:this post-viral, post-jab world.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:That decimates our ability
Speaker:to make nitric oxide.
Speaker:So that's why it's so
Speaker:critical to support the
Speaker:nitrate to nitrite to
Speaker:nitric oxide pathway.
Speaker:And we can do this.
Speaker:Say that again.
Speaker:I don't think people really
Speaker:got the gravity of what you
Speaker:just said because we are in a post-COVID,
Speaker:post-jab world.
Speaker:People are consistently
Speaker:getting more vaccines.
Speaker:I don't want to get into the
Speaker:political aspects of that today.
Speaker:But this is the physiology.
Speaker:When people do that, it interferes with,
Speaker:again, the same system.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Decimates our ability to
Speaker:make nitric oxide,
Speaker:and it makes the nitric
Speaker:oxide we do have not
Speaker:bioavailable to do all
Speaker:these other good things
Speaker:that it needs to be doing.
Speaker:That's why we've got the died suddenly,
Speaker:you know, the increase of heart attacks,
Speaker:strokes, and things like that.
Speaker:You think it's linked to
Speaker:that pathway alone,
Speaker:or one of the causalities?
Speaker:Yes, yes.
Speaker:And so what I think is
Speaker:really important here is
Speaker:we're basically what what
Speaker:we're saying is we're it's
Speaker:it's I don't want to say
Speaker:this the right way but it's
Speaker:like crap on top of crap
Speaker:like we're we're literally
Speaker:stacking ourselves in the
Speaker:wrong direction and if we
Speaker:feed that system with what
Speaker:some people like the
Speaker:citrullines and the
Speaker:arginines well we're
Speaker:feeding the system and then
Speaker:because the let's call it
Speaker:the good pathway
Speaker:is inhibited or it's
Speaker:non-existent or it's just severely,
Speaker:having trouble with words today,
Speaker:severely impacted,
Speaker:but then it can go down the
Speaker:potentially pathogenic ways,
Speaker:which means it's kind of
Speaker:shunting the way it only can go.
Speaker:It's like water takes the
Speaker:path of least resistance.
Speaker:So does this stuff.
Speaker:It just doesn't sit there and go away.
Speaker:It has to go somewhere.
Speaker:And so it goes into these
Speaker:other pathways that aren't
Speaker:so good for you.
Speaker:So now let's talk to us
Speaker:about that other pathway.
Speaker:And that's where I guess
Speaker:your aha came from, right?
Speaker:The nitrate to nitrite to
Speaker:nitric oxide pathway.
Speaker:This pathway is not
Speaker:influenced by all of those
Speaker:things we were talking about.
Speaker:So we can consume the
Speaker:nitrate either with vegetables,
Speaker:like beets have high nitrates,
Speaker:spinach has high nitrates,
Speaker:arugula has high nitrates.
Speaker:But the beets and spinach,
Speaker:these also have oxalates.
Speaker:And arugula is high nitrate
Speaker:without the oxalates.
Speaker:But we consume the nitrates.
Speaker:They get absorbed.
Speaker:They circulate around.
Speaker:They get concentrated in the
Speaker:salivary glands.
Speaker:Salivary glands release the nitrate.
Speaker:And we've got good bacteria
Speaker:on our tongue that will
Speaker:reduce that nitrate further to nitrite.
Speaker:And so we've actually...
Speaker:have strips test strips that
Speaker:we can test the nitrite
Speaker:concentration in your
Speaker:saliva on your tongue and
Speaker:then we swallow the nitrite
Speaker:in the acidic environment
Speaker:of the stomach that nitrite
Speaker:gets converted further to
Speaker:nitric oxide here's your
Speaker:protection against e coli h by lori
Speaker:But most of the nitrite gets
Speaker:absorbed in different
Speaker:tissues in our body can
Speaker:reduce that nitrite to
Speaker:nitric oxide on an as-needed basis.
Speaker:For example, when you're exercising,
Speaker:your muscles need more circulation.
Speaker:They need more oxygen, glucose, nutrients.
Speaker:So the myoglobin in the
Speaker:muscle can reduce that
Speaker:nitrite to nitric oxide on
Speaker:an as-needed basis if it's
Speaker:got the raw material.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And that's the thing is you
Speaker:need the gas for the engine to go, right?
Speaker:You need the raw material.
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:And that's what I keep
Speaker:telling people about the
Speaker:clinical nutritional aspect
Speaker:of life is you've got to
Speaker:have the right ingredients
Speaker:to make the cake.
Speaker:You can't get to the cake
Speaker:without the right ingredients.
Speaker:And the clean ingredients, super important,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:We'll get into oxalates
Speaker:because it is important.
Speaker:I was at an integrative
Speaker:conference last year that
Speaker:was like a big chunk of the
Speaker:whole conference was on oxalates.
Speaker:And I think it's something
Speaker:that we definitely need to think about.
Speaker:But we decided we were going
Speaker:to do this while we were podcasting.
Speaker:So I'm going to test.
Speaker:And I'm going to take the supplement,
Speaker:and then we'll retest,
Speaker:and we'll see where the levels are.
Speaker:So you guide me, practitioner.
Speaker:So take one of the strips.
Speaker:Put the little pad on top of your tongue.
Speaker:Does it matter if I drank a little coffee?
Speaker:We're all, you know,
Speaker:at conferences and stuff,
Speaker:everybody's eating and drinking.
Speaker:So it just takes a couple seconds.
Speaker:Get it all, spit it up.
Speaker:And then let's look at your color.
Speaker:I don't have to fold it or anything?
Speaker:No.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Let's see what you got.
Speaker:Not pink.
Speaker:And I did mine.
Speaker:See mine?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:See the difference?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So you take a couple
Speaker:capsules and then about an hour,
Speaker:an hour and a half later, you retest.
Speaker:And you can see your body's
Speaker:ability to take that
Speaker:nitrate and make nitrite.
Speaker:So anything that you're
Speaker:doing that may be
Speaker:interfering with the good
Speaker:bacteria on your tongue can
Speaker:interfere with that pathway.
Speaker:And what's really good about
Speaker:the test treat test protocol,
Speaker:it's in real time.
Speaker:You can see results,
Speaker:which means people see.
Speaker:what's happening and you can
Speaker:show them through a lab and
Speaker:it's like a super easy lab
Speaker:like these are just tiny
Speaker:test strips right and so
Speaker:I've used them all the time
Speaker:because it's like okay let
Speaker:me show you and it's like
Speaker:oh I have no nitric oxide
Speaker:take these strips home take
Speaker:two capsules an hour and a
Speaker:half later hour later show
Speaker:test and then it then it's
Speaker:that visual people need to
Speaker:see rather than
Speaker:This is so critical why I
Speaker:think labs are important.
Speaker:They're not necessary all the time,
Speaker:but they're important, right?
Speaker:The importance is we see it,
Speaker:which then it becomes personal to us.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:If I test someone's cortisol
Speaker:and it's off the roof,
Speaker:they're going to they're
Speaker:going to validate with me
Speaker:that like they are stressed out.
Speaker:But instead of just saying,
Speaker:I'm stressed out, give me a supplement.
Speaker:It's like, let's target that.
Speaker:Let's retest you and see how you're like,
Speaker:what you track and measure improves.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And so whether we're using a
Speaker:wearable or a simple
Speaker:non-invasive immediate test.
Speaker:becomes proof to why somebody takes it,
Speaker:which means they're also
Speaker:going to continue to take it.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Because they see it doing it.
Speaker:So that's why I really love
Speaker:nitric oxide support,
Speaker:because you can see it in
Speaker:real time and you can see the results.
Speaker:How often do we take
Speaker:something and we don't know
Speaker:exactly anything.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:And this way you can actually see, okay,
Speaker:this is actually doing something.
Speaker:And most people feel
Speaker:like something like their
Speaker:brain feels better because
Speaker:you're improving the
Speaker:circulation in your brain.
Speaker:So they feel sharper, clearer.
Speaker:Well, let's, let's put on the CCN hat,
Speaker:the clinical nutritionist in you.
Speaker:Um,
Speaker:because when we talk clinical nutrition,
Speaker:especially in, in pharmacy world,
Speaker:it's really the science of
Speaker:the supplements.
Speaker:It's the science of the
Speaker:nutritional products that
Speaker:we were recommending.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:You can get this from diet.
Speaker:And I do want to talk about
Speaker:oxalates and how bad they
Speaker:are for us for some, most people,
Speaker:but when we talk about the.
Speaker:the pathways of nitric oxide.
Speaker:Let's talk about what
Speaker:happens downstream now,
Speaker:because I think that's
Speaker:where the rubber hits the road for men,
Speaker:for women.
Speaker:It's like, oh,
Speaker:it improves cardiovascular
Speaker:health because we're
Speaker:helping with blood pressure
Speaker:or those kind of things,
Speaker:because that's where people want.
Speaker:They want the outcome side of it.
Speaker:So talk to people because your experience
Speaker:in this forefront for so
Speaker:many years let's just talk
Speaker:about where you see it
Speaker:clinically in practice and
Speaker:also mechanistically
Speaker:because this is where
Speaker:people will will actually
Speaker:get to doing something and
Speaker:I love this podcast for the
Speaker:reason that we always want
Speaker:to give somebody something
Speaker:to do and this is an easy
Speaker:one but I want to make sure
Speaker:hey what's in it for me is
Speaker:the question right well a
Speaker:better sex life because we
Speaker:all know about the little blue pill
Speaker:Which supports nitric oxide, correct?
Speaker:But it only allows nitric
Speaker:oxide to hang around longer.
Speaker:It doesn't do anything to
Speaker:help improve the nitric oxide level.
Speaker:So improve the level and
Speaker:then get it there longer.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:That's why they don't work
Speaker:in about fifty percent of
Speaker:the people is because they
Speaker:don't have enough nitric
Speaker:oxide on board to begin with.
Speaker:But us women need the nitric oxide, too.
Speaker:in order to be able to feel,
Speaker:to be able to respond.
Speaker:And lubrication is nitric oxide mediated.
Speaker:So as women,
Speaker:if we can't feel anything and
Speaker:we're not responding and
Speaker:we're not lubricating,
Speaker:do you think we even think
Speaker:about sex much?
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Maybe not.
Speaker:So this will also help bring
Speaker:down fasting blood glucose.
Speaker:So the cell,
Speaker:has a receptor called GLUT-IV,
Speaker:and it needs nitric oxide
Speaker:attached to it in order to
Speaker:translocate and bring
Speaker:glucose into the cell.
Speaker:So with diabetes and insulin resistance,
Speaker:it's cardiovascular
Speaker:complications that get people.
Speaker:This is the nitric oxide piece to it.
Speaker:What else?
Speaker:Tell me.
Speaker:We got to know.
Speaker:So we are launching our
Speaker:men's vitality program, right?
Speaker:So when we look at the
Speaker:pillars of men's health,
Speaker:one of them is sexual health.
Speaker:Another one is testosterone, right?
Speaker:Vibrancy, because it's vibrant health.
Speaker:and if they're having ed or
Speaker:sexual dysfunction well now
Speaker:we get root caused in
Speaker:upstream by supporting
Speaker:nitric oxide we're also
Speaker:supporting cardiovascular
Speaker:health right right we're
Speaker:improving the pathways
Speaker:we're not just manipulating
Speaker:them right and so this to
Speaker:me this is like a yeah like
Speaker:it's it's going in the
Speaker:program because you can't
Speaker:not have it right it's like
Speaker:these are the pieces of
Speaker:the the things we want
Speaker:everyone to do right kind
Speaker:of feeling not like you
Speaker:know everyone should have
Speaker:an omega-three status check
Speaker:and and doing like there's
Speaker:certain things we need to
Speaker:do and this is kind of
Speaker:feels like that's one of
Speaker:them right especially as
Speaker:we're we're relating it to
Speaker:specific health reasons
Speaker:what else what else is it
Speaker:well ed is usually one of
Speaker:the first signs of cardiovascular disease
Speaker:Or dysfunction in
Speaker:dysregulation of blood sugar.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Endothelial dysfunction is ED.
Speaker:ED is ED.
Speaker:So we've got to put that
Speaker:nitric oxide back to that.
Speaker:And I said, like for healing, you need,
Speaker:like cells can't be more
Speaker:than two cells away from a
Speaker:functioning microcapillary.
Speaker:So even when you get cuts and stuff,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:those microcapillaries have to
Speaker:be open in order to heal.
Speaker:Stem cells.
Speaker:Stem cells are how we heal.
Speaker:So they require nitric oxide
Speaker:in order to go where they
Speaker:need to go and do what they need to do.
Speaker:The hemoglobin can even
Speaker:release oxygen to the cells
Speaker:without nitric oxide
Speaker:attached to a cysteine
Speaker:molecule on the hemoglobin.
Speaker:So you could be super
Speaker:saturated with oxygen,
Speaker:but if you're nitric oxide deficient,
Speaker:you're not being able to
Speaker:utilize that oxygen.
Speaker:So even by using this,
Speaker:increasing your nitrate,
Speaker:this will allow you to even
Speaker:go up to high altitudes and
Speaker:utilize that oxygen better.
Speaker:So you could use it for,
Speaker:let's say someone like me goes to Peru.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Would we be using more of the supplement?
Speaker:I would.
Speaker:Yeah, I definitely would.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And now had I thought of
Speaker:that or had I had you in my
Speaker:back corner when I went to Peru,
Speaker:it might be a little different,
Speaker:but I didn't get sick.
Speaker:I was really,
Speaker:really happy with where I was, but
Speaker:you know, altitude is a big deal, right?
Speaker:And so it's like, how do we,
Speaker:how do we do those things?
Speaker:I love that one.
Speaker:That one's going to be one
Speaker:of my favorites.
Speaker:So exercise,
Speaker:you do a couple of capsules an
Speaker:hour prior to exercise,
Speaker:you'll be able to exercise
Speaker:harder and longer and your
Speaker:recovery will be quicker
Speaker:because once again,
Speaker:you're increasing the oxygen,
Speaker:glucose and nutrients to
Speaker:those cells that need it.
Speaker:And you're clearing away the debris
Speaker:So you're recovering quicker.
Speaker:So when would, well, like a guy, right?
Speaker:They want to maximize their,
Speaker:we do the same thing with
Speaker:our nanotestosterone.
Speaker:It's like,
Speaker:if you want an extra boost
Speaker:before you go in,
Speaker:twenty minutes before you exercise,
Speaker:do an extra dose,
Speaker:because we can microdose
Speaker:these things now.
Speaker:But like,
Speaker:this is a two capsule a day formula,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Now,
Speaker:If somebody were to want to
Speaker:maximize recovery,
Speaker:is there a steady state
Speaker:where if they're taking it twice daily,
Speaker:it's no big deal?
Speaker:Or do we want to time it to
Speaker:maximize certain activities?
Speaker:You can time it to maximize
Speaker:certain activities,
Speaker:like if we're working with
Speaker:sexual dysfunction.
Speaker:You can take two capsules in
Speaker:the morning and another two
Speaker:capsules an hour prior to activity.
Speaker:Got it.
Speaker:So you're boosting it in certain ways.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:So dose and then like an
Speaker:acute type like dose, you know,
Speaker:titrated up.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Or if you're getting off of
Speaker:blood pressure pills or something,
Speaker:you may need two capsules twice a day.
Speaker:Or if you have an infection.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:you're trying to do specific things.
Speaker:I would add another two
Speaker:capsules or add some high
Speaker:nitrate veggies at lunch or dinnertime.
Speaker:How much though?
Speaker:I think when people say that and it's like,
Speaker:oh, I eat broccoli,
Speaker:but then I eat like three
Speaker:crowns of broccoli and I
Speaker:think it's going to help my
Speaker:estrogen balance, right?
Speaker:How much does someone need
Speaker:to eat in order to get optimal?
Speaker:So two capsules of my nitric
Speaker:oxide product has
Speaker:about the same amount of
Speaker:nitrates as five ounces of
Speaker:spinach or seven ounces of
Speaker:beets and that's pretty
Speaker:much you know those um tubs
Speaker:of spinach you know not the
Speaker:big one but the the smaller
Speaker:one but that's five ounces
Speaker:so it's a it's a good chunk
Speaker:plus you're you're you're
Speaker:getting the oxalates with those too
Speaker:Let's jump in there because
Speaker:I think you've got to eat enough of it,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:Yeah, you do.
Speaker:You don't need to eat pounds,
Speaker:but we need to eat enough.
Speaker:But now we're also talking
Speaker:daily because we're moving this through.
Speaker:So this is kind of like my
Speaker:omega-three rants that I go on.
Speaker:It's like if you're not consistent,
Speaker:it's not like, oh,
Speaker:I eat salmon once a month and I'm good.
Speaker:It's like, no,
Speaker:you've got to eat beets and
Speaker:spinach and arugula at pretty –
Speaker:pretty high doses, if you will,
Speaker:in order to get what you need,
Speaker:which is why I say with
Speaker:supplements in this nature is like,
Speaker:if you can't eat it,
Speaker:you have to supplement with it.
Speaker:And you can make a combination of the two.
Speaker:You can.
Speaker:And you can use the strips
Speaker:to make sure that you're
Speaker:optimizing it too.
Speaker:So you can test to see
Speaker:whether you're actually eating enough.
Speaker:And it does say on these strips,
Speaker:it gets kind of, it's just like,
Speaker:I was thinking like,
Speaker:know color by numbers right
Speaker:it's like the number that's
Speaker:like the colors are if
Speaker:you're if you're high high
Speaker:pink you're in the you're
Speaker:in the the good zone yep I
Speaker:was in the low depleted
Speaker:zone because I hadn't taken
Speaker:my supplements today most
Speaker:people I wanted to see it
Speaker:but you know and actually
Speaker:it was funny no I did take
Speaker:um I may have actually taken one of the
Speaker:citrulline things that I had
Speaker:in my cabinet like I don't
Speaker:remember if I took it today
Speaker:or not but like I'm I'm
Speaker:actually gonna do some cool
Speaker:things like can you do that
Speaker:too with the strips like if
Speaker:somebody's do you take like
Speaker:oh I'm already doing uh you
Speaker:know we won't name other
Speaker:people but like they've got
Speaker:all their products you can
Speaker:see it's like l-citrulline
Speaker:now if they're taking that
Speaker:and they test and it's not
Speaker:high you know that their pathways are
Speaker:compromised is that right
Speaker:right well most of the
Speaker:tests showing arginine or
Speaker:citrulline increases nitric
Speaker:oxide were done on young
Speaker:male fit athletes like
Speaker:males eighteen to twenty
Speaker:one but that's everybody in
Speaker:this country right it's
Speaker:just like pharma let's just
Speaker:do a forty year old men and
Speaker:see what happens right exactly exactly
Speaker:Let's stack our data by
Speaker:getting the most fit, like highest level,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:optimized humans on the planet
Speaker:and then use our baseline for that.
Speaker:I just think it's fun.
Speaker:So oxalates.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:let's talk oxalates because it's
Speaker:something that's not new,
Speaker:but it can severely impact
Speaker:people's health and they
Speaker:don't realize that.
Speaker:There are these little sharp
Speaker:crystals and they,
Speaker:like when anybody's got any
Speaker:kind of leaky gut or any
Speaker:vitamin B six deficiency,
Speaker:which a lot of people do,
Speaker:they're not able to,
Speaker:to like eliminate the oxalates in foods.
Speaker:So they're absorbing too much and they,
Speaker:these oxalates,
Speaker:these sharp crystals kind
Speaker:of get stuck places.
Speaker:Like if they get stuck in their kidneys,
Speaker:they increase in kidney stones,
Speaker:they get stuck in the
Speaker:joints or space in the joints,
Speaker:then they get arthritis.
Speaker:So most people with any kind
Speaker:of chronic issue probably
Speaker:shouldn't be increasing
Speaker:their oxalate intake.
Speaker:So I formulated this nitric
Speaker:oxide product with arugula
Speaker:instead of beets or spinach.
Speaker:Arugula is a high nitrate
Speaker:veggie without the oxalates.
Speaker:And we've had this product
Speaker:tested and there are zero
Speaker:oxalates in this product.
Speaker:So we won't be increasing
Speaker:any kind of health issues
Speaker:that can happen with oxalates.
Speaker:No kidney stones,
Speaker:no increase of joint issues.
Speaker:I think it's one of those hidden...
Speaker:Like it's one of those like
Speaker:stealthy things that people don't realize,
Speaker:but because here's the
Speaker:ticker and this is why it's
Speaker:so important is like a lot
Speaker:of the healthy foods you
Speaker:think you eat or you eat
Speaker:have lots of nitrates or
Speaker:have lots of oxalates in them,
Speaker:like sweet potatoes, right?
Speaker:All these, these, so give people,
Speaker:you can Google it, you can do AI, but
Speaker:tell people like almonds,
Speaker:like my whole list of great
Speaker:foods is in there.
Speaker:And it's like, but you go,
Speaker:I eat really healthy.
Speaker:And then it's like,
Speaker:but I have all this pain.
Speaker:You can even get oxalate
Speaker:crystals coming out of your tear.
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Literally like when your,
Speaker:your tears look like they got little,
Speaker:my family calls them cheapas, but like,
Speaker:it's like right in there.
Speaker:And it's like, and, and the amount of,
Speaker:dysfunction,
Speaker:especially from pain and
Speaker:inflammation that can
Speaker:happen in kidney stones.
Speaker:And so it's in lots of foods.
Speaker:And I've put people on oxalate-free diets,
Speaker:and I've watched some magic happen.
Speaker:When we get stuck in these realms, we go,
Speaker:how are you eating?
Speaker:Like, what are you eating?
Speaker:It's like the list would
Speaker:really look healthy.
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:I'm making a big green smoothie every
Speaker:morning.
Speaker:You've got every single one
Speaker:of them in there.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So now here's one of my
Speaker:thought-provoking questions.
Speaker:When people are using
Speaker:spinach or beetroot
Speaker:extracts and things like
Speaker:that in their products,
Speaker:can they extract the
Speaker:oxalates out of it or they don't?
Speaker:Well, if you ferment them,
Speaker:it decreases the oxalates a lot.
Speaker:However, it doesn't kill it.
Speaker:It's not zero.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And that's kind of what the
Speaker:genesis of your product was
Speaker:and why it's so important
Speaker:and why it's different.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Nice.
Speaker:Ours is zero oxalates.
Speaker:I love that.
Speaker:We've also got a couple
Speaker:other ingredients in this
Speaker:to help support the NOS enzyme.
Speaker:So I'm working on both pathways.
Speaker:So the NOS enzyme is a dimer.
Speaker:So it's two molecules of the
Speaker:same thing held together by BH-IV,
Speaker:which is tetrahydrobiopterin.
Speaker:So when somebody's under a
Speaker:lot of oxidative stress,
Speaker:when they've got a chronic issue, this,
Speaker:what's called,
Speaker:it uncouples that NOS enzyme.
Speaker:So it can't make nitric oxide.
Speaker:But unfortunately,
Speaker:when that NOS enzyme is uncoupled,
Speaker:it becomes a superoxide generator,
Speaker:not a nitric oxide producer.
Speaker:So it can actually increase
Speaker:the oxidative stress,
Speaker:increase those free radicals.
Speaker:But I've got some
Speaker:five-methyltetrahydrofolate,
Speaker:some activated folate,
Speaker:some activated methylcobalamin B-II.
Speaker:These help make that
Speaker:tetrahydrobioftrin to keep
Speaker:the NOS coupled.
Speaker:So we're working on both pathways.
Speaker:And you're, you're doing it in sort of the,
Speaker:the base way,
Speaker:allow the body to do what
Speaker:it's supposed to do and
Speaker:feeding the other system.
Speaker:That's not counterproductive to that.
Speaker:So it's kind of like you're
Speaker:moving both ways.
Speaker:Now, what, how, what, what, uh,
Speaker:Have you, when can people like,
Speaker:if someone were to like, all right,
Speaker:I know it's like an
Speaker:everything for everybody, but like,
Speaker:what are some signs that
Speaker:you think people would know
Speaker:that besides testing that
Speaker:they're deficient,
Speaker:that their bodies aren't,
Speaker:they're not getting enough
Speaker:nutritionally or their
Speaker:bodies aren't working the
Speaker:way they should.
Speaker:High blood pressure, high blood glucose,
Speaker:diabetes, insulin resistance.
Speaker:We talked about ED and sexual dysfunction.
Speaker:Any kind of kidney issue
Speaker:because you're not getting
Speaker:the circulation in the kidneys.
Speaker:Maybe you're not healing as
Speaker:well as you should be.
Speaker:Maybe you're not thinking like you should.
Speaker:Like depression, anxiety,
Speaker:sleep is nitric oxide mediated,
Speaker:our circadian rhythm.
Speaker:REM sleep, nitric oxide mediated.
Speaker:So even by optimizing your nitric oxide,
Speaker:you're going to sleep better.
Speaker:And when you sleep better,
Speaker:everything goes better.
Speaker:That's right.
Speaker:It's the number one
Speaker:longevity supplement in the world, sleep.
Speaker:I tell people that all the time.
Speaker:It's like you can't get any
Speaker:better than nailing your sleep.
Speaker:here's another pathway right
Speaker:instead of like taking all
Speaker:these other things you know
Speaker:I don't know about you but
Speaker:as I've learned more and
Speaker:more and more I keep going
Speaker:back to simple right I keep
Speaker:getting back to really
Speaker:getting basis things done
Speaker:first before I go complex
Speaker:it's like the eighty twenty
Speaker:rule that works magically
Speaker:And so here's another
Speaker:example of why we should
Speaker:put this at the forefront
Speaker:of foundational support versus like, oh,
Speaker:by the end of this, I'm figuring it out.
Speaker:It should be at the base.
Speaker:Nitric oxide should be at
Speaker:the base of everything you do.
Speaker:It probably won't be the only thing you do,
Speaker:but if you've got impaired
Speaker:circulation and microcirculation,
Speaker:it doesn't really matter
Speaker:what else you're doing
Speaker:because it's just not going
Speaker:to get to where it needs to go.
Speaker:So even by optimizing your nitric oxide,
Speaker:you might not need all
Speaker:these other things in the
Speaker:dosage that you're taking them.
Speaker:You might be able to cut
Speaker:down on some of the dosage
Speaker:because it's allowing
Speaker:things to get there.
Speaker:Well, that's the proof in the pudding,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:When we empower people to do
Speaker:these things and then
Speaker:lo and behold,
Speaker:it's like now we can open
Speaker:those conversations of
Speaker:deescalating their medications,
Speaker:getting off medications.
Speaker:How important is that for people?
Speaker:You and I have been in this
Speaker:field for so long because
Speaker:people can get medicine taken away.
Speaker:And in this Westworld philosophy we have,
Speaker:it's let's put on more and
Speaker:not think about taking them away.
Speaker:If we're improving the pathways,
Speaker:then we don't need to mess
Speaker:with the symptoms as much.
Speaker:Well,
Speaker:anytime you've got two or more drugs
Speaker:that you're taking,
Speaker:you're a walking experiment.
Speaker:They haven't done these
Speaker:tests on more than one drug at a time.
Speaker:So you're on a drug and then
Speaker:you're having adverse effects.
Speaker:They put you on another one
Speaker:and more adverse effects.
Speaker:And it's just like a never
Speaker:ending bad cycle.
Speaker:I hardly watch TV anymore.
Speaker:And one of those reasons is
Speaker:it just doesn't, you know,
Speaker:like there's so many drug
Speaker:commercials out.
Speaker:I'm just,
Speaker:I literally saw a drug commercial
Speaker:this past couple of weeks.
Speaker:It was just in passing.
Speaker:I was like,
Speaker:Really?
Speaker:It's a drug that treats a
Speaker:drug side effect.
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:Like literally they're marketing it.
Speaker:Hey,
Speaker:you might be on this drug and you have
Speaker:all these crazy side effects.
Speaker:So we're going to give you
Speaker:this drug to counteract
Speaker:those side effects.
Speaker:Like we've said this for so long now, Beth,
Speaker:but-
Speaker:Pharma's literally creating
Speaker:syndromes on top of syndromes that says,
Speaker:take this drug because this
Speaker:drug is causing so many problems for you.
Speaker:And now they're marketing it
Speaker:with an FDA approval.
Speaker:The adverse reactions of that drug
Speaker:is actually the same
Speaker:syndrome you're treating
Speaker:exactly which is where you
Speaker:know oh my gosh let's talk
Speaker:about drug nutrient
Speaker:depletion just a little bit
Speaker:because we've been
Speaker:screaming this for years
Speaker:and years and years it is a
Speaker:side effect of a medication
Speaker:to be depleted in nutrients
Speaker:we know that almost half
Speaker:the drugs or more deplete
Speaker:the body of essential
Speaker:nutrients but as pharmacists
Speaker:we're legally obligated to
Speaker:speak to people about the
Speaker:side effects of drugs.
Speaker:It's kind of in our ethos of who we are,
Speaker:but we're not still talking
Speaker:about nutrient deficiencies from drugs.
Speaker:It's like, there's a disconnect,
Speaker:even though we've been
Speaker:screaming it for so long as, as we,
Speaker:what we do.
Speaker:But I do want to open this
Speaker:up because people are listening.
Speaker:Like that's a big deal to
Speaker:take your drugs you're on and,
Speaker:And then apply the
Speaker:deficiency because it's robbing you.
Speaker:Remember Drug Muggers was one of the books,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:It's like it's robbing you
Speaker:of those nutrients.
Speaker:And it's not just like I
Speaker:need it because I need good
Speaker:foundational health.
Speaker:It's like I'm behind the game.
Speaker:And it's rampant, it's all over drugs,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:And so that's a really big
Speaker:piece that I think people don't,
Speaker:because it's not sexy, right?
Speaker:It's not this sexy thing,
Speaker:like I can treat my ED or
Speaker:my energy or my foggy brain.
Speaker:It's like, I take a drug,
Speaker:it's not really a side effect,
Speaker:it's an effect.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Side effects.
Speaker:They're a known effect of this drug.
Speaker:Well, which is another, you know,
Speaker:pharma's got its place, right?
Speaker:But like, listen,
Speaker:we call it a side effect so
Speaker:we can diminish the effect
Speaker:of the bad stuff these drugs take.
Speaker:It's like, treat this drug,
Speaker:but the side effect of the
Speaker:drug that we're telling you
Speaker:about is actually indicated
Speaker:on this drug that we're sheaching you.
Speaker:It's like,
Speaker:you know, oh, that could cause cancer,
Speaker:but here's a cancer drug.
Speaker:How about birth control pills and SSRIs?
Speaker:They go hand in hand.
Speaker:But those birth control
Speaker:pills are depleting your vitamin B six,
Speaker:your magnesium.
Speaker:So you're not being able to
Speaker:make those neurotransmitters.
Speaker:So, you know,
Speaker:I started a drug nutrient
Speaker:depletion in my pharmacy
Speaker:back in two thousand and two.
Speaker:So all classes of drugs had little
Speaker:pieces of paper that I would
Speaker:have stapled to the bag to
Speaker:get that conversation started.
Speaker:So at least we wouldn't put
Speaker:you down that road to where
Speaker:you're doing drug after drug after drug.
Speaker:Well,
Speaker:and it's so crucial and it's
Speaker:something we can empower
Speaker:people to think about now
Speaker:and have those
Speaker:conversations because it's like, oh,
Speaker:I take these meds.
Speaker:What are the things that
Speaker:might be depleted?
Speaker:And also what are the
Speaker:clinical aspects of these
Speaker:nutraceuticals and supplementation where,
Speaker:hey, I have blood pressure.
Speaker:Well, what's the synergy?
Speaker:What can I be doing, right?
Speaker:Can I be supporting nitric oxide?
Speaker:Can I be supporting these things?
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:rather than going straight out to
Speaker:the GLP ones or whatever that thing is,
Speaker:it's like, how do we support the body?
Speaker:So we don't have to take the medicine.
Speaker:It's like a,
Speaker:it's a very not new philosophy,
Speaker:but it's really one that I
Speaker:think people are starting
Speaker:to open up with.
Speaker:It's like, Oh, it's more,
Speaker:it's more where I want to be.
Speaker:It's more of the root cause
Speaker:of what's going on.
Speaker:Oh, that makes sense.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:let's support the physiology
Speaker:instead of doing something anti
Speaker:like anti this, anti that,
Speaker:where you're stopping
Speaker:processes in the body.
Speaker:Our body really doesn't like that.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:it wants it wants to do what it's
Speaker:supposed to do.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Our body has this beautiful, innate,
Speaker:loving intelligence.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:our cells don't we don't command
Speaker:ourselves to do what they do.
Speaker:They want to do what they want to do.
Speaker:We just got to get out of
Speaker:the freaking way.
Speaker:But we were eating ourselves
Speaker:to death with the foods we
Speaker:put in our bodies.
Speaker:Seventy percent of children
Speaker:in the United States,
Speaker:their their food is ultra processed.
Speaker:Seventy percent of their food.
Speaker:which means it's like eating
Speaker:plastic instead of like
Speaker:food from the ground.
Speaker:For real though.
Speaker:For real,
Speaker:like microplastics is in our
Speaker:sperm right now.
Speaker:It's going straight into the DNA.
Speaker:So we've got work to do in
Speaker:this highly toxic environment.
Speaker:Like I'm sitting on a PMF mat,
Speaker:I'm doing the things we
Speaker:need to do so we can help ourselves,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:But this has all been awesome,
Speaker:but I do want to take a
Speaker:little time because you and
Speaker:I share a lot of common threads.
Speaker:But one of them is working
Speaker:with high performance
Speaker:people in entrepreneurial
Speaker:space and C suites and
Speaker:people that are seven plus
Speaker:figure entrepreneurs.
Speaker:Because in my way, if I can help them,
Speaker:there's this ripple effect.
Speaker:And so talk to us a little
Speaker:bit about what you're doing
Speaker:with companies in the wellness field,
Speaker:because this is a shared
Speaker:passion for me as well.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Well, to be effective,
Speaker:you need to feel good.
Speaker:You know, when you don't feel good,
Speaker:that is a ripple effect too.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:everybody around you feels that
Speaker:when you feel good,
Speaker:Everybody wants to know,
Speaker:what are you doing?
Speaker:What are you doing?
Speaker:I want some of that.
Speaker:So by helping people feel
Speaker:the best they can feel,
Speaker:you're touching so many lives.
Speaker:That's one of the reasons I
Speaker:started those women's
Speaker:health seminars monthly,
Speaker:because the women there,
Speaker:they kind of govern their families.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:you get them feeling better and
Speaker:the whole family benefits.
Speaker:You get the person at the
Speaker:head of the company feel better.
Speaker:The whole company benefits.
Speaker:It's important.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:I think in that I've been an
Speaker:entrepreneur for twenty years, you know,
Speaker:and it's it's who I am.
Speaker:It's my blood.
Speaker:And we always say your
Speaker:avatar is like the five year ago self.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And so it's like building
Speaker:that is very important to me, too.
Speaker:And like for me,
Speaker:it's like I'm rooted in men's work.
Speaker:I'm rooting in men's vitality.
Speaker:And so I'm like, well,
Speaker:why can't I just help more
Speaker:of those people?
Speaker:And in building these programs,
Speaker:not just because I deal with men only,
Speaker:I can help women.
Speaker:But I can empathize with their bodies,
Speaker:body, mind, spirit, family, business,
Speaker:inside.
Speaker:Like you said,
Speaker:it's wellness from the inside out.
Speaker:And I think that's where
Speaker:people are starting to work on,
Speaker:especially as we get into
Speaker:this second season or
Speaker:mountain of our lives in
Speaker:these forties and fifties,
Speaker:where we start to realize,
Speaker:Hey,
Speaker:that outside stuff doesn't really work
Speaker:for me.
Speaker:It doesn't, doesn't make me feel happy.
Speaker:Like we go into this space of, you know,
Speaker:midlife crisis when you buy
Speaker:a car and it feels good for
Speaker:a little while, but then you're like, eh,
Speaker:you know, it's like, no,
Speaker:we got to go from the inside out.
Speaker:That's kind of what you said
Speaker:is they feel good, but it's like, really,
Speaker:if you're happy and you're
Speaker:joyous and you have this energy about you,
Speaker:well, people do, they want that.
Speaker:And then
Speaker:that automatically ripples down, right?
Speaker:And moving it into their companies,
Speaker:into their businesses,
Speaker:into the people around them.
Speaker:And so you work with people
Speaker:like that and you get them
Speaker:feeling well and you
Speaker:optimize their health, right?
Speaker:And it starts with you, right?
Speaker:The person.
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:I love that.
Speaker:Well, where can people go to find this?
Speaker:Well, they can go to your store,
Speaker:And you'll have a code.
Speaker:We have a code,
Speaker:and we'll make sure that
Speaker:people can link to that
Speaker:code so we can make sure
Speaker:they're getting it.
Speaker:Because I love how you do that,
Speaker:because you want to track
Speaker:where it's coming from so
Speaker:we can continue these conversations,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:And so we'll supply the code
Speaker:to get people interested in
Speaker:using the product.
Speaker:Obviously,
Speaker:you can come to our store if you
Speaker:live in Charlotte.
Speaker:I love that,
Speaker:that you're able to like
Speaker:create that for people and
Speaker:really test and see where things are,
Speaker:you know?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And, and I'm on LinkedIn by Beth Shirley,
Speaker:our PHCCN in just every single week,
Speaker:I will take a recent study
Speaker:and I will show you the
Speaker:nitric oxide connection.
Speaker:So I,
Speaker:I do that pretty much every single week.
Speaker:So I'm posting these
Speaker:Well,
Speaker:which is really important because
Speaker:everything we do in healthcare, well care,
Speaker:this is why clinical
Speaker:nutrition is backed by science, right?
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Functional medicines got
Speaker:backed by science.
Speaker:Like I love when we,
Speaker:we not just say these things,
Speaker:we actually back it up with
Speaker:the things as peer reviewed,
Speaker:supported literature,
Speaker:things of that nature.
Speaker:Um,
Speaker:I love your cats in there.
Speaker:It makes things like life, right?
Speaker:My dog is back here half the time.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:he thinks when I'm on the computer
Speaker:like this, it's his time.
Speaker:Of course, right?
Speaker:Why not?
Speaker:I know it hasn't been an hour,
Speaker:but I want to test myself
Speaker:and just see where we're at.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:That's good.
Speaker:You just get it.
Speaker:Make sure it's all spitted up.
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:I had the thing on the wrong side of my
Speaker:tongue.
Speaker:Yeah, it would help.
Speaker:Get the pad on there.
Speaker:Look at that.
Speaker:Meet Red.
Speaker:Look at that.
Speaker:Look at this, guys.
Speaker:It hasn't even been an hour.
Speaker:Even if you can't see it, but you can.
Speaker:You can see it.
Speaker:Look how different that is.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:It's not, it's not a,
Speaker:it's not pseudoscience.
Speaker:This is real stuff.
Speaker:And, and it's like right there, you know,
Speaker:it's like, oh, personal, like, Hey,
Speaker:in the world of,
Speaker:in the world of instant gratification,
Speaker:at least we could do this.
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:That's pretty cool.
Speaker:pretty so that that's and
Speaker:it's like it's real time
Speaker:that was unscripted we
Speaker:didn't like do anything but
Speaker:Beth this has been awesome
Speaker:I always love to kind of
Speaker:tailor these kind we're
Speaker:definitely got to talk more
Speaker:about women's health and
Speaker:women's Vitality next but
Speaker:this one's kind of like
Speaker:rooted around what we're
Speaker:doing together for men and
Speaker:things of that so I can't
Speaker:wait to get you back on again but
Speaker:I always try to end with
Speaker:this question and it's impromptu is like,
Speaker:what's the one thing you
Speaker:want people to know coming
Speaker:out of this conversation?
Speaker:That nitric oxide is a base
Speaker:of all healing.
Speaker:You must optimize that,
Speaker:that it won't be the only
Speaker:thing you're doing,
Speaker:but it needs to be the base
Speaker:of everything you do.
Speaker:And this whole conversations
Speaker:that we have here are all
Speaker:about true healing.
Speaker:We're not about symptom management here.
Speaker:No, not at all.
Speaker:Here's another reason why we
Speaker:can align these things to
Speaker:build the foundational
Speaker:support for healing and transformation.
Speaker:So thank you for that.
Speaker:That's beautiful.
Speaker:Go check her out on LinkedIn.
Speaker:We're going to supply the
Speaker:codes for you guys so you
Speaker:can get the supplements.
Speaker:And I'm super excited to
Speaker:continue to work with you on this path.
Speaker:My unicorn pharmacist
Speaker:wellness person friend.
Speaker:Thank you so much for just showing up,
Speaker:being true to your passion, right?
Speaker:It's so clear.
Speaker:Like this is where, this is where you go.
Speaker:Like this is exact.
Speaker:And so it's fun.
Speaker:having these conversations
Speaker:with people that have just
Speaker:put their all their lives
Speaker:and energy into certain
Speaker:things in life so thank you
Speaker:so much for what you're
Speaker:doing and uh we'll see you
Speaker:next time thank you all
Speaker:right guys that's a wrap uh
Speaker:until next time stay well
