Episode 88

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25th Jul 2025

#88: She Sold Her Company to Bill Gates—Then Healed with Ayahuasca: Beate Chelette's Story

What if the path to true healing doesn’t come in a bottle but in surrender?

In this compelling episode of Beyond the Pills, host Josh Rimany welcomes Beate Chelette, a globally recognized business strategist who built and sold her company to Bill Gates in a multimillion-dollar deal. Known as The Growth Architect, Beate has guided thousands of entrepreneurs and corporate leaders to scale their impact but her most transformative breakthrough didn’t happen in the boardroom. It happened deep within her own body.

After years of battling debilitating chronic migraines and unresolved trauma, Beate sought alternatives when traditional medicine failed her. Her journey led her to plant medicine where she not only found physical relief, but emotional and spiritual restoration that changed her life.

In this episode, Beate opens up about:

  • Her rise from $135,000 in debt as a single mom to becoming a multi-7-figure business owner
  • The toll that trauma, stress, and overachievement took on her health
  • Her journey through plant medicine ceremonies and the emotional breakthroughs that followed
  • The direct link between unhealed wounds and physical illness—especially in high-performing women
  • Why true leadership and authority begin with personal alignment and inner clarity

Through Beate’s powerful story, listeners are invited to reimagine what healing looks like—especially when success masks suffering. She offers a message of hope, resilience, and reinvention, proving that even the most strategic minds must learn to listen to the wisdom of the body.

Featured Guest Links:

🔗 Website: beatechelette.com

📸 Instagram: @beatechelette

💼 LinkedIn: Beate Chelette

🎙️ Podcast: Business Growth Architect Show

🗓️ Program: Turn Your Talent into a Business

Transcript
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Welcome,

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welcome to this episode of Beyond

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the Pills.

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This is a podcast where we

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uncover the healing power

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of integration for ancient

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wisdom meets modern science

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to help you thrive body, mind,

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and spirit.

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I'm your host, Josh Rimini,

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and today's guest is a

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powerhouse in the world of

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business strategy and

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personal transformation.

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Viette Chalets is the

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founder of the Growth

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Architect and the Women's Code.

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And she's not just any strategist.

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She's someone who

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bootstrapped her way from

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one hundred and thirty five

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thousand in debt as a

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single mom to selling her

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creative business to none

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other than Bill Gates in a

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multimillion dollar deal.

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She was named one of

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PeopleHum's top one hundred

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global thought leaders and

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Huffington Post's fifty

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must follow women entrepreneurs.

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Biete helps visionaries,

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leaders and change makers

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turn their unique talents

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into thriving businesses.

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She's the author of the bestselling book,

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Happy Woman, Happy World,

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and has advised global brands like Amazon,

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Merck and the L.A.

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Philharmonic.

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this conversation goes

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deeper biete has navigated

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chronic migraines trauma

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and healing through her

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plant medicines experiences

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and making her story not

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just about scaling profits

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but reclaiming health

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purpose and power so

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blending all the things we

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love to do here get ready

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to dive in on how we turn

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your talent into authority

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avoid leadership burnout and

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unlock the strategy behind

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sustainable success.

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Welcome to the show.

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Thank you so much, Josh.

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I'm excited to be here.

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Thank you for having me.

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I when I when I kind of

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formed your bio from your

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from our talks and previous conversations,

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I just love it because I'm in this.

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I'm right in it right here.

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This stuff we're talking about.

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Right.

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And I'm guiding and helping

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others make these big

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decisions about these

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shifts and what things are going on.

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So your story is extraordinary.

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How did you go from

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struggling single parent in

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debt to selling the company

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to Bill Gates?

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Like, let's hear the story, the backstory,

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so we can see that.

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And then kind of those inner

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shifts that changed everything.

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Yeah, well, first I want to say that,

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you know, we think that that's the story,

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but then the story took

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another massive turn at the

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beginning of the year, you know,

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just as I thought I had

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finally figured it all out.

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And I am here to share with

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your audience that, Josh,

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it just never ends because

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we are long for the ride.

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We don't know what the ride

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is going to be.

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And my ride, as you said,

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has been a very bumpy and

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at the same time beautiful

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and powerful journey

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I'm originally from Germany,

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and I'm a trained photographer.

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It's literally the only

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degree I have is a photography degree.

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I was a producer,

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a photographer representative.

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I was the young, cool girl here in LA.

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producing photo shoots for Mercedes Benz,

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BMW, and was all over the place,

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had a great time, models and production.

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I mean, I really, really loved it.

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And I also had a couple of

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photographers that we presented.

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And that was after I had

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been laid off in a massive

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recession and I had to

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figure out with a newborn

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baby that I had to figure

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out how to run a business.

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And then I realized that I

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had my husband was a

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pathological liar and an alcoholic.

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And I had to stop that relationship.

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And then next thing I know,

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I'm a single mom and I'm

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trying to figure this all out.

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And as I'm thrusted into

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this entrepreneurial journey,

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I had to just overcome all

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these crazy things that you

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read about that happened to other people.

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And I just am that other person.

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And it started with, you know,

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Eighteen months after I did,

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there was this massive

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earthquake in Los Angeles

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and my production business

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that I had built at the

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time up to a good sized

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business just stopped

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because nobody in their own

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right mind would come on a

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plane flight to Los Angeles

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when everything was in shambles.

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And then that kind of starts to, you know,

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get better.

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And I'm working more with my

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my photographers and I

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build it up to about a

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million dollar business,

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which is a nice size business.

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You know, only only what,

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two to four percent of all

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entrepreneurs even make it

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to the million dollars.

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Right.

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And I am.

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But I was on the road a lot

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because it was producing.

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And then I find out that my

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key employee had a plan to

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run her own business,

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which was my business

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without me with my key vendor.

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So next thing I know, my invoices

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are not paid.

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And as I'm checking out, it's like, hey,

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you're late.

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And they say, oh, no, no,

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we paid it to their

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business because they said

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you are out of business and

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you were not trustworthy

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and you didn't pay them.

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And so they ask us to pay them directly.

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So I sued them.

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So next thing I know,

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I'm in this big lawsuit,

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which I would never do again.

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And it turns out I'm in a

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lawsuit with State Farm Insurance,

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not just because they had

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errors and emission

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insurance through a group

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insurance for a photography association.

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But I did not know that.

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So I'm fighting by myself this like big,

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mean, nasty battle.

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And just as I think I'm, you know,

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I'm coming around this corner,

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September eleventh comes.

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And in one day,

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my production business is

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wiped out again.

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I lose everything I have in one day.

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So I lost the photography

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representation business.

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I lost my production business.

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And now I'm in big trouble.

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And a lot of dead.

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So I'm fighting and fighting

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and fighting and fighting.

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And the lawsuit settles.

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And it settles for nothing.

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It literally settles for the

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exact amount of money I owed

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in debt and the money I owed

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my attorney and I remember

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on the last whatever two

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hundred dollars I'm in

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downtown and I bought a

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bunch of flowers for my

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attorney who fought so hard

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for so long and I'm looking

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at my bank account and

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thinking to myself I could

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have saved myself this

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all this trouble.

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I could have done nothing.

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I could have had nothing a year ago.

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And I fought all this time

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to have nothing.

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And that was a big lesson,

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big lesson I learned.

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And from there on,

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I had to go back into debt

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because I didn't have any money.

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I didn't have any income.

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Everything was gone.

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And I built this stock

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photography syndication

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business which was really in

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back in those days an early

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technology-based business

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because we digitized a lot

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of the content assets that

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most people can't even

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imagine that there was a

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analog analog version of

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life before digital but we

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digitized all of that stuff

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so we were that company and

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that created a value for

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bill gates company

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and as because our specialty

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was celebrity homes and we

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were licensing the rights

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to the photographs our

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photographers did from

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celebrity homes all over

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the world which is a hot

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commodity back you know and

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again then the magazine

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world was it was a booming

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business you know we were

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just starting to go into

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online and digital digital

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news and media but back

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then most of this stuff was analog

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And we became very quickly

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the world leader in this category.

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And that's why this Bill

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Gates company came and says,

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we are interested in buying it.

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And I had not considered selling it,

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but my photographer, my key photographer,

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Fernando Bengochea,

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vanished in the tsunami in Asia.

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and um was never to be found

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again and that was my big

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producer that was a big

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story back then on oprah

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because it was nate

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burkus's partner and uh you

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know the interior designer

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that does a lot of stuff

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now for living spaces and

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he was never to be found

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again and I realized that I

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was just kind of sick and

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tired and done of all these

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vulnerabilities to my

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business and then when the

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offer came I knew the

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number it was my it was the

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number that I wanted

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and um then the day just

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came and then I sold my

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business and at that time

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was a hundred thirty five

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thousand dollars in in in

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debt and um I really did

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not know how I was going to

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survive and as I'm trying

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to figure out how I'm going

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to get through this I fly

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to germany and then my

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father has a stroke

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And now my father dies in

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six weeks from pancreatic cancer.

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And, you know, and there was,

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this was sort of this

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turning point in my life.

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And I think, you know,

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you and I will talk a

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little bit more about this, Josh,

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when you have these

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defining moments where

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you're so under the

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pressure that you're on

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your knees and I raised my

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fist and I yelled at God, I'm like, dude,

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what the heck is going on here?

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You know, this is just not normal that,

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you

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All this stuff would happen to one person.

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So like get a grip here.

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You know, if there's a plan,

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this would be a really good

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time to fill me in.

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And then I had to surrender to this.

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And eighteen months later,

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I sold my business for

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millions of dollars to Bill Gates.

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But I had to really come to

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this point of full surrender,

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which is where I'm at again

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at this part in my life,

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which I never thought I'll

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have to redo all over again.

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And I think that when you lean into

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into letting go of what you

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thought it was because I

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couldn't hold on to

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anything anymore I mean it

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was it was too big for me

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so I had to surrender and

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let something else take

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over and then eighteen

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months later I solved my

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business for millions um I

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love how you ended in that

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base because hearing your

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story is you know I always

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say it's it's it's the same

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but different like the the

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the formula, right.

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It's like getting through

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all these challenges and learning through,

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you know, the,

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the entrepreneurial journey

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along with the life journey, right.

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It's like up and then down

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and then up and then down

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and you're getting up every time.

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And you're moving through that every time.

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It's like the whole,

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the whole adage of get up

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more times than you're knocked down.

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Right.

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And then, then getting to that, that deep,

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dark place in your world

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where you're asking those

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bigger questions like, is this it?

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What's going on here?

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you know,

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the dark night of the soul part of you.

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And then I really resonate

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with the surrender piece.

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Cause that's what happened

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to me in another way this year too.

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I went on my own surrender experiment.

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I like did, I surrendered to what was,

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I surrendered to what was

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in alignment with me.

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And that like that one piece that you said,

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when everything's just so overwhelming,

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you can't

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do anything but surrender.

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You surrender, you let go.

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And then what happens, right?

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Everything sort of aligned

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because there was no other,

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like the universe just decided like, okay,

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now she's getting it, right?

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It's like that piece where I

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talk a lot about this with

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a lot of friends of mine

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and a lot of people on this show is like,

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it's not that you're giving up either,

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right?

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It's not that we just,

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let go of everything it's

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like you you surrender to

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the outcome you surrender

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to this higher thing that's

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going to be coming and you

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don't even know what it's

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going to be that's why it's

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a surrender right and so I

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really resonated with that

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because that was a very

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tipping point in my

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evolution in my journey to

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self this past year I'm literally

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This week represents that

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whole year that I took and

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did that whole process that

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you were kind of looking through.

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So I'm curious on those

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lessons learned and how you

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created that into and those

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pieces into what you do for others,

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right?

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yeah I I think that I didn't

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really even understand what

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I was creating up until

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this year and and again

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this is we're now looking

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this is twenty years ago

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and in anybody's book

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that's a good amount of

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time so in in the days

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since what did I do I built up this

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photography coaching

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business and only to find

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out that the whole

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photography industry and

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content and assets was

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imploding faster than you

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could create anything

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because content became a

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commodity everybody does it

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there's very little value

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to content creation and now

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look what's happening with

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ai the remaining digital

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content creation piece is

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now becoming completely

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invaluable because you can

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everybody can go to chat

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gpt or an ai and create a logo or

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images.

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So it's now,

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it's now taken a whole different,

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a different turn again.

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But I, you know,

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and then I went in creative

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consulting only to find out

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that photographers are not

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the only ones who are broke,

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but there are a lot of creatives who,

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that don't know how to run a business.

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And then I went into business consulting.

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But my heart's always been with people,

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Josh, that are nonconforming,

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if I really want to be honest here.

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And nonconforming, I mean,

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are people that have big ideas that are

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a little bit weird, you know,

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maybe a hippie or two, or they're,

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you know,

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have a different ethnicity or

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different sexual orientation,

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people that are not

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typically conforming to the matrix.

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As we, you know,

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a lot of us are calling it

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now in this system that's

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been built by a white man for the

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average white men with the

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typical idea of I work hard,

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I sacrifice everything, I hustle,

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I have a pension, I have social security,

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I get Medicare.

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And then one day all

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magically will fall into place.

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And then I'm going to buy an

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RV and I'm going to sit in

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my reclining chair,

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traveling through America,

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through the national parks, uh,

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watching football games or go hiking.

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And I,

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I never thought that this

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dream really worked for women,

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certainly not single women,

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certainly not for immigrants.

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And I found increasingly

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that it doesn't work for most people.

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And what we are seeing today,

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it doesn't work anymore for

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the person who created it first.

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either.

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So I am absolutely astounded.

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This is not like a man

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bashing or white man bashing thing.

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But when I look at the,

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what was built and who

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built it and what did they build it for,

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for this particular motion.

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And now I see that the very

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people that build it are saying,

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what a shit system this is.

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We need to break it.

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And I'm sitting there and I'm going like,

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yep,

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That old that old patriarchal, like,

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top down, you know, power, you know,

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money, like, people sense this, right,

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they're sensing that this

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system is completely broken down,

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like I am one of those.

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people that is like, goes, you know,

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those visionaries that see

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things differently that go in the like,

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I'm the pharmacist that

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teach people how to get off drugs, right?

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It's like,

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the whole system is set up for

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not just like the rich,

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it's the power piece, like that one,

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one tiny little people out

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there that nobody understands or knows.

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And is expressing that system down.

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And I feel like we're at the

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stage now where everybody

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kind of knows the system's broken.

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And we're kind of in that

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emergence of these new things happening,

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which is like I've had this

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like the caterpillar to the

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butterfly analogy so many times.

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Now it's like we're in the

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chrysalis where like we're

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moving into this new age of

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this golden age of humanity,

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this new age of

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consciousness where it's no

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longer linear.

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It's exponential.

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It's multidimensional.

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It's all these things.

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We're going from a sick care

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model in health care to a

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healing model in health care.

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We're using technology with

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ancient wisdom to create

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things where big pharma and

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big food have no place.

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Because it's all back into

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the space of how we can

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help ourselves so we can

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help others and create this

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ripple in humanity.

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That's how I feel.

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And I think we're sharing

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that same knowledge base because...

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it's not like a theory

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anymore we're sensing and

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we're seeing it right it's

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right in front of us

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because because there's

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critical there's critical

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mass I just spoke to

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somebody and he said that

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the number of conscious

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leaders healers is about

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point five percent and the

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mass activation that I talk

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about a lot because I'm

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suddenly having

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conversations about this non-stop

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And I'm leaning, you know,

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I'm really leaning into it

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more and more and more.

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And the more I lean into it,

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the more people like this are showing up.

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And I, and he said,

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once we get to five percent,

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we have critical mass.

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then we have enough

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influence and impact with

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these ideas to then in the

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in the bell curve model to

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then start to gain momentum

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but you know back to back

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to the story of what made

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me what made me do this in

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in the time since it was

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really trying to figure out

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How am I serving?

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And then I'm finding myself

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spending my own money that

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I made in helping other people.

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And then everybody goes like,

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this is such a shitty model.

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Why don't you just go sit at

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the beach and drink

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beverages with an umbrella in it?

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Why do you take your own money?

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It's almost like you're

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paying for the pleasure to work.

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And it never made any sense to me.

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But I...

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And for some reason,

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I couldn't not do that.

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And I always felt a little

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bit stupid about this.

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And that was until I began

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my plant journey.

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And that was now about a

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year and four months ago.

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And I always, you know,

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there's a reason I'm on the

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other end of the planet.

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My mother is extremely abusive.

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And my mother is a World War

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II child raised by a World

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War I mother who was also

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in World War II and then

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lost her husband.

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And, you know, there's all kinds of, like,

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stuff that doesn't make any

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sense because supposedly he

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was a math teacher.

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But then he was the guy who

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went in the harbor to check

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if the submarine boat was

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properly secured in the harbor.

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And I'm thinking,

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there's not a math teacher

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in this world whose job it

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is to go in the harbor and

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check on whether or not the

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biggest asset of the German

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military at the time is secure.

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So there's all kinds of stuff in here.

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I'm going, I know I'm being lied to.

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And maybe they've been lied

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to about what really went on.

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So there's a lot of

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generational trauma and war.

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And my mother was just a

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really horrible mother to

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me specifically and

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mentally unstable and

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probably would be diagnosed

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with today with severe PTSD, depression,

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potentially bipolar.

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So all kinds of things.

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She's she's ninety.

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She's functioning.

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You know, she's never been diagnosed.

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She's never seen a therapist.

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She's been suffering her

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entire life in this in this

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mental prison she put herself in.

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But I carried a lot and I left Germany.

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I did the therapy.

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I did the talk therapy.

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I did the retreats,

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the past life regressions.

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I mean, my God, I did like everything.

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And I still felt like I was

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carrying this with me.

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And my now husband said to me,

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you should do a plant journey.

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And I'm like, not a chance in hell.

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Why would I put myself through this again?

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Why would I wanting to

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remember more than I remember?

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That was my big fear, Josh.

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My biggest fear was that I

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was going to remember things.

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Go back to it, yeah.

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That I had, thank God, forgotten,

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and that I had to relive

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this all over again.

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And then I'd be sort of in

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the middle of it.

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And as Mother Ayahuasca,

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or our good friend, you know,

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the plant medicine so often does,

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they said, oh, that's where the fear is?

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Allow me to take you right there.

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The mother teacher gives you

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what you need always.

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Always.

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Always, always, always, always.

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So I am in Costa Rica in my plant journey,

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and I am getting just hammered.

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I mean, hammered.

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I'm literally in a fetal

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position on a piece of

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grass outside of Maloca.

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staring in this fire pit and

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everything is so weird and

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so uncomfortable and in so much pain,

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I'm so sick and so nauseous

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and stuff's happening.

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And I'm going like,

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why did I pay so much money

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to feel this terrible?

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I was like, that was the dumbest,

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stupidest thing I have ever

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done in my entire life.

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And I remembered.

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And I remembered everything.

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And I remembered that not

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just was she psychologically abusive,

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emotionally abusive,

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she was physically abusive.

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And, you know,

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I'm feeling my cheek burned and I'm going,

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oh, the beatings.

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I totally forgot the beatings.

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And, you know,

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and then you stand there and you go, okay,

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and now what?

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Now what do we do with...

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the recognition of the

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reality of what our journey

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here has been.

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And one of the facilitators

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gave me a quote that really

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changed my life.

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And I don't remember by whom the quote is,

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and I've been trying to

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find out who I can attribute this to,

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but I've been unable to.

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And the quote goes like this,

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how hungry must your heart

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have been to devour mine?

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Mm-hmm.

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And that to me changed

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everything because that to

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me for the first time was

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the recognition of not just

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what did she do or what was

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done to me or what I kept

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recreating with this

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marriage that I was in and

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the difficult relationships

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and fixing people and

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trying the wounded healer stuff.

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When I realized that it was never about me,

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I just happened to have

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been in the line of fire,

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that this was her.

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inability to deal with her

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own stuff and then when I

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realized that what's hers

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is hers and what's mine is

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mine and I no longer try to

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make sense of why she did

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it because at this point it

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didn't matter anymore was

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already over but then is

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that's when you take the

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power back and you say what

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am I gonna do with this now

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how do I move forward and I

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think this is really the part where

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the healing begins in the

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part that you do begin.

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Without that realization,

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I think it's almost

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impossible to free yourself

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from some of these pieces

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that are sitting on you.

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And in one of my journeys,

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when I was thinking about the migraines,

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what were the migraines all about?

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And it literally says,

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you're breaking your head

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wondering why she did this.

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It was literally breaking my

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head because I couldn't figure out,

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you know, being a mother myself,

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not being a grandparent,

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why somebody could be so

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thoroughly evil and mean to

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their own child.

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And I just couldn't, I mean,

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I still can't understand it.

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But back then,

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I think that was a big

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reason and why it caused so

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many migraines.

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Well, and how the body keeps the score,

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right?

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And how the mind-body

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connections are all in there, right?

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You're physically beating your mind up,

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trying to relate something

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that your mind could never relate to,

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which is where I think the

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master teacher came for me.

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When my trip in Peru this

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summer was that same realization of like,

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the surrender of my analytical, right?

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It's like going from here to

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here has been a big journey

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in my life and it's a continued journey.

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And same thing happened to me,

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it was like,

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There's just, it's too overwhelming, dude.

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You just got to let it go.

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Like you got to let go of

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the thing because I've been

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so analytical my whole life.

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It's been my protector.

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It's been how I've been able

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to shield myself from all

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of the wounds and things.

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And so it was that really beautiful,

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like you said,

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I think that the beauty of

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what you said was realization.

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Realization is not like an

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intellectual thing.

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only concept, right?

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The things you're talking about,

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I think people can relate to,

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but until you viscerally

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understand them inside you,

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that realization is the, you know,

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we all know that like when we all get the,

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Oh, like that,

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it's like that piece that

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comes beyond the,

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intellect and into the

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intuitive side of you where

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you just know and when you

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know you cannot go back so

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that's that's where that

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tri that's where I feel that tri that

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that triggering point comes

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in someone's life where

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they realize this is why I

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love plant medicines.

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It's literally a realization.

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You will get a realization

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if you align your

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preparation with your

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intention and the healer work.

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Like we're not talking about

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just doing a medicine,

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like popping a pill and

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then getting it done.

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Like there's a whole process.

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And we've talked about this

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on many episodes.

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Like we, we, we make,

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we got to make sure we're

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doing it the right way.

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But when you're in that

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journey and then you

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integrate it into your life,

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because it's not just the

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moment that makes it,

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that it becomes the teacher.

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It becomes the things that you need.

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And so that realization came for you.

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And then everything kind of seems like,

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did it kind of unfold then

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into those new things and

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those new ways for you?

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And then you have what I

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call an oh shit moment.

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Yeah.

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Blue ocean moment.

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No, an oh shit moment.

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Of which I have had many.

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To your point,

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the issues are in the tissues.

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They always are.

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And a lot of times there's

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also generational stuff.

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There's a lot of studies now.

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When you dive into some of

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the plant medicine science

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and the studies that have been done,

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we do know from some

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experiments that pain

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associated with a

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particular smell will

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program generations to...

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feel pain or to be afraid at

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a particular smell even

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though they've never

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experienced the pain and we

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we now know that these

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things are generational and

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that they sit with you and

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a lot of stuff might not

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even be yours you don't

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even know but the big

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changing point was when I had to look at

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the story of the lone wolf

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fighter overcoming all

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these things beata chalet

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immigrant you know fought

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her way through it bravely

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and suddenly the story that

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drove me to all of this no

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longer had any meaning

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So we create these stories

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of why we are who we are

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and why we act a certain

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way and why we can relate to other people,

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why we have trust issues,

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why we have traumas and triggers.

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And then we try to set

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boundaries and have other

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people not trigger us and

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be all healthy about it.

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And then one day you realize

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that's been all your own stuff anyway.

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And now if you have the

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ability to take that story

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and make that story just

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not mean anything,

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Because does it matter today

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on whether my mother beat me or not?

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Does it matter to my life

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right now if my mother

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still manipulates my brother, my sister,

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and myself?

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Does that matter to who I am

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and the life I want to live?

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And then you realize,

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if I were to let this story go,

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Am I going to have to

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rewrite my entire life story?

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Then everything I've done

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has no meaning because then

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the meaning just changed or

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everything that I believed

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in was wrong all along.

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Who am I now?

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And that's a scary moment.

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That's why people don't want

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to let go of the story.

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Who am I going to become?

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Who am I going to become?

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If I lose my identity, right?

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Because the identity is the story, right?

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The identity is the story.

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And I want to just tell you

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an example of what came up

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now in another journey.

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Not in a journey, actually.

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That came a realization that

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came about six months after

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my first journey.

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So I am in Mexico City on a

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retreat that I facilitated.

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And we go into one of those

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tapas restaurants.

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And I walk in there and it's

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a very familiar smell to me.

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And there's a lot of garlic in tapas.

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And I can't eat garlic.

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Garlic is actually one of my

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migraine triggers.

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And nobody really ever knew why that was,

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but I couldn't handle garlic.

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And I got so sick from the

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smell that I literally had

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to go back to the hotel and

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spent like two hours in the bathroom.

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And I couldn't figure it out.

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And then suddenly it dawned on me.

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The trigger to my garlic

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allergy and migraine was an

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incident in Spain when I

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was nine years old, some nine,

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ten years old,

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when we went to a Spanish

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restaurant in Mallorca,

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an island of Spain.

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And my mother ordered a gambas cocktail,

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which is, you know,

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the large shrimp with a lot

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of garlic in it.

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And I said, I want one of those.

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And my mother said, you are not worth it.

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It's an expensive item on the menu.

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You're not allowed to have

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it because things like this

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are only allowed for parents.

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Kids are not worth it.

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Hmm.

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And so I must have

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subconsciously associated

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the smell with a feeling of unworthiness,

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and it literally made me sick.

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And I carried this for fifty

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nine years or fifty years with me.

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Where do you do you think

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you have to get to the

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point of origin to getting through it?

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Not necessarily.

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A lot of people I talk to

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are in the space of like,

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I don't remember this time frame.

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I don't know when that origin came from.

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You know what I mean?

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It's like sometimes people

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try to analyze the timeline,

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but then it gets trapped somewhere.

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They don't really understand

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where that core wound came from, per se.

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Do you think people can move through it?

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I think that that's where

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surrender comes in.

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It should not matter to you.

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If it comes up and this came

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up six months later while

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we were having lunch in a

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completely unrelated place,

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I was not in a I was not on medicine.

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I was not I was not meditating.

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I was literally I was like

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in the middle of a trigger.

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that I've never experienced

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this strongly as I had.

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And then the realization

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just came through.

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I think it just was

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something that was ready to be resolved,

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but it came on time and I

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wasn't pushing it.

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I don't know if pushing the

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issue is going to

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necessarily be helpful

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because suppressed memories or traumas

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They kind of like do what they want.

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And you just have to be

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willing to not give it any

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meaning until the time

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comes where you might be

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able to resolve it.

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It might come up or it might just go away.

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I've known plenty of people

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that had migraines and did

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plant medicine and they

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didn't have to do anything.

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It just went away after the plant journey.

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You know, not for me.

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I mean, my first journey was, as I said,

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a year and a half ago.

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And my second journey was a

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couple of months ago.

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And that was all about

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letting go and surrender.

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And boy,

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did I get my butt kicked on that

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one four days later.

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But I think the big lesson

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about plant medicine is

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you're not in control of this.

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It will take you where it needs to go,

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and you need to surrender to that.

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Yeah.

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I always say the only path

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forward is through.

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Mm-hmm.

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You know, especially in plant medicines,

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you do not control the journey,

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which is why you need

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facilitators and guides and

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healers that are

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very well skilled and very

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well yeah please don't

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please don't do this at

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home or or or not

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recreational this is not

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like I'm gonna heal myself

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it's very dangerous in the

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wrong situation which is

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why we call it set and

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setting mindset is key but

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also the setting you create I think uh

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you know, we,

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we've demonstrated that

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enough in a lot of different places.

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And I think there's a lot of

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great avenues for that.

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And this is why I like to

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guide people towards when

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they prepare is how to

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choose the medicine and

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then where to go for it.

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Because I think,

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and all the people that we

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we've identified and, and, and,

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interviewed on this

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particular show is they've been verified.

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They do it right.

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There's an integrity we also

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have to keep with the medicine,

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especially like the mother

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and ayahuasca because it's

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not a substance.

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There's a whole component to

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the lineage and how it's

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relayed and the way and

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manner in which people receive it.

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And it's becoming modernized

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a little bit because

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you know,

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the shamans of old are

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understanding this is a new age.

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And this is why I love

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having these conversations

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with people that are kind

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of using both sides at the same time,

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not going straight over to

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the clinic and getting an

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injection versus like,

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like respecting that whole integrity.

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And I think everyone that I

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know that has had these

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types of experiences that

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you and I are discussing here,

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That's how you do go through that.

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And it's not for everybody either.

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It's not like we're saying

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the only way to get through

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all this stuff is to go use the plants,

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but they are master

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teachers for the right people.

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Some people don't want to

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open up those stories,

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and they're very scared of

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going through those journeys.

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Because you don't know what

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your message is going to be.

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And some of these messages, you know,

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I've seen people freak out.

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And I've seen people have

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such a horrible experience

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that they packed up and

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left on the first night.

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And I, you know,

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I've always been very specific about

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the first journey I did,

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I sought out a particular

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shaman that I had resonance with.

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And I was looking, I was looking,

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I was looking.

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And the shaman I worked with

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was Taita Juanito, who comes from a very,

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very, very long lineage in Colombia.

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and he was the youngest

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shaman and his

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great-grandfather is the

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oldest living shaman from

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his particular tribe and I

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wanted that long lineage

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and that I didn't want

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somebody who went on a how

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to be a shaman course and

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then you know does plant

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medicine you know then

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there's there's wonderful

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people like that out there

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too but I really wanted

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somebody who came from that yes

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From the tribe,

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because we also need to

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look at the prophecies that

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have been written, right?

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The plant medicine has been

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around for thousands of years.

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It's just been kept a secret.

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And the prophecies have said

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that the healing,

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the next round of healing

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is going to come from the West,

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not the East.

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Yeah.

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And so that we're seeing

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such an opening of these

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medicines by tribes and

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shamans should make

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everybody listen up and say, well,

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why is this happening right now?

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Well,

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that's because this is the time when

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the prophecy says it's going to happen.

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Yeah,

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that's what the beauty of all this is.

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And I think people get it

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when they get it.

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I was just in Costa Rica and

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we were talking about,

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Taita Juanito.

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And he's actually the,

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the person that's learned

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from his lineage is the one

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that's going to help me in

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the retreats that we're

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going to be holding for entrepreneurs.

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All right.

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I love that.

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I'm in whatever you're doing.

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I'm not kidding you.

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Cause I have it on my phone right now.

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Like, and yes.

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So the, my friend who owns a retreat,

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she'll be on this podcast,

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but she owns a retreat center and she's,

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She works with Eli,

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who works with Juanito.

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And so I have that direct

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lineage coming through to me right now.

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How powerful is that?

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See, that's serendipitous,

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that that's a shaman that I was drawn to.

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And we're having a conversation, you know,

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like that's a shaman that has emerged.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So the lineage is super important,

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but it's also the

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connectivity of the residents, right?

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We're literally having an

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online conversation across the country.

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We've never met each other before,

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and we're talking about the same things.

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And it literally happened to

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me three days ago.

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Like three days ago,

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we're expressing and I'm

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learning about Taita Juanito,

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where he came from and the

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lineage and the person that

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I'm working with is like,

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we're only going to use his

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lineage because that's the

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lineage I've learned from and that our

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servers are learning from so

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there's there's a legal

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component that you need to

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but it's like we're not

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accepting any other healers

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at this retreat anymore

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this is the lineage we're

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going to use because I've

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been through it and I know

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it and I trust it but also

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I've experienced through it

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like people don't realize

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how many journeys

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when you're learning in this tutelage,

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like you take the medicine

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every time someone you go into a ceremony,

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the, all the, all the facilitators,

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all the people that are

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learning under the,

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they have to be vibration.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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So it's,

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they have to be in that vibration.

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And so I, I love that.

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I love the synchronicities

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and the beautiful parts of life.

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Let's Ben,

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thank you for sharing your amazing story.

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Let's,

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flip over to the entrepreneurial side,

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right?

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You're here.

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You've got a, you've got a program.

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You teach other entrepreneurs how to,

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you know, get to their authority and, and,

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and move themselves.

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And you and I are in a connection.

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I know we'll connect on other ways.

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This is also why I love this

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podcast because we're just

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good humans doing great things,

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but like you're very

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centered around helping

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entrepreneurs that have,

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That are heart centered,

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want impact that are like

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here on this planet to move

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us into that golden age, to get,

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I love it,

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to get to the point five to the five,

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right?

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That's where we're at.

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That's where you and I are

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connecting because.

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I feel like that's happening in the,

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not only the healthcare world,

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moving from sick care to

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healing and expressing these things,

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not just plant medicines.

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This podcast is all about

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the modalities of healing,

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but you're bringing,

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you're teaching others how

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to grow their authority and build it into,

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for me, it's like,

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Vision is pure.

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I know where I'm going,

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but then it's really

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difficult for visionaries to get it done,

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right?

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It's not the EOS visionary.

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Oh my God.

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Now, please,

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please don't torture yourself

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with traction.

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I'm just saying it's not that.

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But I have experience with

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that stuff because I've

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learned and failed for so

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many things in my life.

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And then opening up my own authority,

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my own authenticity and

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leaning into where I am now

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is where all these things are aligning.

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But still,

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it's like I do have the visionary space.

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And I think most

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entrepreneurs are

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visionaries and they're

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really crappy at execution.

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And how you're going to land the plane.

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Yes.

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Aligning it.

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So tell people about how you

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created this through your story.

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We've got that.

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But what actually are we

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doing now for people?

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What's the system you're using,

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the tools you're using so

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we can help people gain

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awareness for this?

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So as I say, but wait, there's more.

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So now I have it all figured out, right?

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Now I'm going on my second

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planned journey at the

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beginning of the year.

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And I've been with my

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partner for ten years.

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not exactly fast moving, I might say.

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And we finally said, you know,

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let's just get married.

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Let's just elope.

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So we got a spiritual retreat,

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a different retreat with a

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different shaman.

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And we get married on

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January third and it's

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beautiful white Floyd clothes.

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You know,

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it's all love and everybody's

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just coming from these from

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these journeys.

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It's that it's the end of

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all the journeys and it's

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like so much celebration

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and love and smiles and dancing.

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And then

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On January seventh,

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we lose everything we have.

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We are in Costa Rica on our honeymoon.

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My office burned down with

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my podcast studio on the seventh,

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and our house burned down

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on the eighth in the morning.

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And we weren't even here.

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We couldn't save anything.

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We were in a spiritual

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retreat with backpack and

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flip-flops and white flowy clothes,

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no jewelry, no memories, no mementos.

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This is the LA fires, right?

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That's the Palisades fire, yeah.

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Yeah.

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And you literally had your backpack.

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That's it.

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Oh, my God.

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That's it.

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We couldn't save anything.

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And in the journey this time,

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the message was the first

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journey was you need to rest.

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And I'm like, oh, my God,

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I'm having a pleasant journey.

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I've never had a pleasant journey.

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It's always been like

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wrestle to the ground.

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slaying dragons and demons.

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And I'm like having this

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beautiful journey.

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I'm like, oh my God,

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if all Ayahuasca journeys are like this,

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I'll do one every day.

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And the second night, the message was,

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you need to let go.

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I'm like, yeah, okay, get it, let go.

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No, no, you need to let go of everything.

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That's a little extreme.

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What do you mean let go of everything?

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No, you need to let go of everything.

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You need to let go of the story.

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You need to let go of

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everything you believed in.

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You need to let go of how

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you look at things.

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You need to let go of how

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you tell the story.

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You need to let go of everything.

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I'm like, okay, I get it.

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Surrender.

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No, you don't understand.

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You have to let go.

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And it went on for seven hours.

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And I'm like,

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it was the let go extreme

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version preparedness program, apparently.

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and then I'm not laughing at

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you I'm just laughing at

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like how the universe is

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like when you're ready it

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will it will give you what

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you need and it makes sure

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you get what you need and

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if you don't listen it keeps coming right

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It keeps coming.

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And then the final journey

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was about that I now needed

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to be called to step into

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wisdom and that I give all my IP away.

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I'm like, excuse me?

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So I built all of these

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processes and systems as

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the growth architect for

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decades and shortcuts and

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how to build these business

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and how to be a conscious leader,

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how to connect the passion

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to the strategy,

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how to combine these two things.

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So it's not this drudgery, you know,

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slate through all the

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internet marketing bullshit

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that people are telling you

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that you have to do in this

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hokey language and that

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ethical persuasion.

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So I finally figured all of this out.

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Now you're telling me I need

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to give this away.

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Yes.

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You are to build a SaaS

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product where you take

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everything that you know,

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and you make it available

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to everybody who wants it.

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That's your job.

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And you are to work with the

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conscious healers and

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entrepreneurs and people

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that are called to be the

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founders of the future.

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And that

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That was so powerful that I

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sat there and I go, oh, okay,

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I guess I'm supposed to

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give all my IP away and

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find a way to take

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everything that I've ever created.

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And the stuff that I've created,

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it's been created, what, forty, fifty,

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sixty million dollars.

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It's been used.

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You know,

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I've had over some of these

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programs have over twenty

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five thousand people that

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have taken them.

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And now I'm supposed to take

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all of this and make it

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available for the price of

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a SAS product for like a

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hundred dollars a month for, you know,

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the next level, what,

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three hundred dollars a

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month and for the highest level,

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a thousand dollars a month.

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And I'm going,

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that's a big ask that's

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being being made here.

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And then a couple of weeks later, you know,

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we are now coming through all of this.

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One of the people that was

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on the Ayahuasca journey

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with me this time says,

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I didn't tell you this at the time,

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but I'm telling you this now.

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I was told that I need to

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help you build it.

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This guy works at MEDA.

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He's a product manager.

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Guess what?

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For SaaS products.

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You can't make this stuff up.

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You just can't, right?

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So yesterday at about five o'clock,

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I sat in my car after I got

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my hair done and I took a

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photo of me sitting in the

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parking garage that smelled

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of urine because a lot of

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homeless people in LA use

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parking garages for all kinds of things.

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I'm sitting in a parking

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garage with my laptop in my

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car and I just had pulled

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the trigger to launch it.

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and I invited our first

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three beta testers to to

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build the program and he's

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part of it so the shift and

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what I want to what I want

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to sort of get really clear

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here now is is there's

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multiple things that come

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come come now in play so

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what shifted after the fire

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took everything

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I mean,

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I'm going through the grieving

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process and I'm angry and I

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cry a lot and it hits me at

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certain times.

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I mean, I lost everything, you know,

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I I'll never have another

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mother's day card that I read.

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I never see another letter

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from my father that he wrote.

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I,

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my mother gave me all the estate jewelry

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a year ago and that all burned.

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I mean, literally I have nothing,

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nothing of my previous life,

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nothing survived.

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And.

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The thing that happened is

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that our community,

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and neither my husband or I knew this,

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was so overwhelmingly

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generous with us that we

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didn't even know what to do with it.

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And what I realized is that

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I had given extensively, you know,

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my money, helping other people, mentoring,

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doing a lot of stuff for

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free for so many years.

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I never knew why.

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It was to prepare for the

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moment where I was to receive.

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A hundred percent.

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And Josh, you felt that, right?

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Yeah, that's the T capital truth, right?

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That's the journey.

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And then people would put

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their kids to bed and drove

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for an hour and a half to

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drop off a bag with a jacket.

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A friend of mine,

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one of the women that I mentor,

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She brought me a copy of my

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own book and said,

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you now need this more than I do.

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And I know this will be the

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only copy you have.

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She says, oh, by the way,

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it's a really good book.

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You should read it.

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And, you know, and our kids, you know,

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set up a GoFundMe page.

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And we had, you know,

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somebody gave us their place.

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They were in Paris romancing a woman.

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He says, I'm not there.

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Just crash at my place as

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long as you need.

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I'm going to be gone for the

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rest of the month.

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And our kids made

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appointments for places to rent.

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And boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

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We were... We were...

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We were so overwhelmed by

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what happened that we

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couldn't even think or make

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any decisions.

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And we received so much all at once.

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It was the most humbling experience.

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But because I'm a business

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strategist at heart,

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I had to think about if

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this is happening to me

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after this journey,

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then what is the what what

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am I being called to

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transform this into that

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helps other people because

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that's the only thing that

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I have to believe in

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otherwise I'll go nuts if I

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would believe this is

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punishment then we're all

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done here but I don't

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believe that I believe the

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law of polarity says if

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it's happening on one side

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the other side must already

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exist so I have to be

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determined to find the

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other side of this so I've

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been looking and

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I've been financially taken care of.

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I magically had all the

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right insurance for my

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office and for our house.

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So we are the people that

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are amongst the unlucky ones,

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the lucky ones.

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We have all the right insurance.

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We have guaranteed replacement value.

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All of our cars burned.

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They're already all taken care of.

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My business insurance paid

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me twenty five thousand dollars.

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It paid me seventeen

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thousand dollars in income loss.

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was a recipient of a grand

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funny story when we went

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through the rubble to look

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for something you have like

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this romantic illusion that

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you'll bend over and you go

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oh my god what's that you

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pull out your grandmother's

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pearls fully intact not

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when something burns for at

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two thousand degrees for

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twelve hours it's all gone

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there's nothing and he

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gives me a rune one rune

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And it's the X and the X

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rune stands for gift.

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An hour later,

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I get a call from the LA

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fire relief fund.

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I've been given a twenty

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five thousand dollar grant.

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And, you know, so the cash is here,

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I can actually built it.

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And that's what I'm focusing on now is.

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What do I need to be?

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Who do we need to become to

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help the founders of the

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future to do the work that

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they are now awakening to

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or being called to do?

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Because that's what happened

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in these journeys over and

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over and over again.

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One hand raises after another.

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I'm called to do this.

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I'm called to do this.

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I'm called to do this.

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And I'm like,

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so connected to this intuitively,

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because I am on this vibration.

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But my skill set is that I

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can look at somebody who

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has this crazy idea.

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And I'll give you an example,

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then you know exactly how this shows up.

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So I talked to this woman.

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And she is an educator at Harvard.

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And now she says,

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I am helping people to

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connect with their purpose.

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And I said to her,

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are you seeing what's

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happening in the

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educational institutions?

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And she says, oh, yeah, it's the worst.

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In educational institutions,

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it's particularly terrible

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because they lost their way.

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Educational institutions

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used to be where the

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intellectuals went and drove innovation.

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And now it's all driven by

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alumni associations and who

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gives what money and that's

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being allocated and then

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drives what we go to.

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Well, that's breaking now too.

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That's also being under complete scrutiny.

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And I looked at her and I said,

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you're not here to help anybody.

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I said, with your background,

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you're here to help the

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people in the educational

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world to regain this

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original sense of what

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these educational

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institutions were supposed to operate as.

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innovation thought

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leadership um challenging

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systems building a future

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and her eyes just like

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popped wide open and then

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she freaked out and she

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says uh I don't know if I

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pot you know I said that's

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When the message comes through,

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and the message comes

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through with such a magnitude, you know,

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and I literally,

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like when I pull this information down,

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Josh, I see it.

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And all I do is I just tell

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you what's already there

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because you don't know how to see that.

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That's my gift.

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That's what I do.

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And then I said, oh,

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and here's the business model for it.

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This is how we built it.

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That's my gift.

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So what I've built, you know,

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long-winded answer to your

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simple question, what do you do now?

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No, I think this has been beautiful.

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I love how it's transpired

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in the way that it's transpired,

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which is the perfect way

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for it to transpire for you, to you,

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through you, and then through others.

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This beautiful story of

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creation rather than I do X

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for X that want to X, right?

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It's this beautiful gift of,

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So yes, tell me more.

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Yeah.

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So I've always created

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business building

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structures in three different levels.

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So one is where you build the model.

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That's where you turn the

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talent into a business

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because you have to have

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the idea flushed out and

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the business model flushed out.

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You have to know who you're doing it for,

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why you're doing it.

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You have to have a story with it.

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That's the prerequisite for

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building a business.

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That's the first part.

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uh that's going to be our

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that's our first level

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that's the level we're

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building right now after

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that's the second level

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that's the growth level

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because once you have proof

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of concept once you know

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what you're doing who

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you're doing it for and how

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it benefits people solves

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the problem and we have

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proof of concept then we

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are growing this into what

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I call a signature growth

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system where we then design

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what are the different products

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That's probably something

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where you are at right now,

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where you know what it is, and it's like,

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well,

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what are the different modalities

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that I'm going to offer?

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How I'm going to be involved?

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What are my partnerships?

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What are my collaborations?

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What's my entry level?

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What's my higher ticket?

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Is there going to be a mastermind?

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Is there peer-to-peer accountability?

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Is there going to be a group?

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Is it online?

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Is it live?

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So that's why we map all these things out,

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because that's when we

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design what the growth model is.

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And then the final model is

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the scaling piece.

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And that's when you take

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yourself out of your

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operations by building

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these operational processes

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and structures that then

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you can either live the

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life you said you were going to live

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or you can sell the business

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or merge it with something

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involvement and we so right

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in this CreatorForge piece,

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which is the SaaS that we are building.

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is interested in this,

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just send me a shout out

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because it's not available

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for purchase at this time

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because we're building it,

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but we will be launching

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this in the fall.

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because we've been preparing

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for this for a very long time, really.

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place that's going to tell

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us what we need to be building.

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if you have this idea,

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it will show you all the

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steps that I take with my

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clients that pay me

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thousands of dollars on how

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to flush out the idea,

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build the business model.

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to help you there's you know

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obviously there's an

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additional stuff available

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but the system is going to

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be built so it is

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self-sustaining if you

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choose so because a lot of

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conscious entrepreneurs are

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at this at in this first

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level they need to figure

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out how to make money go a

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long way so the money isn't

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coming in yet so we have to

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first get them to the point

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where they get the income

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And then once we have the income,

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then we can take them to the next level.

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So I'm really working on this.

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If you're an entrepreneur

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that's already in business and you go,

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I know what I need to do,

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but I need some help and I

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need accountability, we've created Forum.

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Forum is a monthly accountability group.

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It's really an accountability group.

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It's not an online course.

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We're live with a bunch of

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entrepreneurs that are in

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this space and they're

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trying to do good in

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whatever format that is.

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And we talk about business.

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We talk about what what are

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you going to do?

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Are you going to do it?

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What's your obstacle?

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We have ninety day sprints

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and it really is designed

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to help people to have

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somebody to bounce ideas

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off and have a group that

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helps each other.

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they'll go.

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you'll post the link and

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then the group will go in

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the linkedin and they will

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make comments and post it

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on their own so that we

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start getting critical

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momentum in building that

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and I made that dirt cheap

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it's three hundred twenty

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five dollars so let's not

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make this complicated or

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mysterious and so for the

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for the amount of a good

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therapy session you can

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have access to me and a group for

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as long as you like.

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There's no minimum.

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You can cancel any time

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within thirty days.

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It's designed for anybody

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who feels that they need

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help to give them help.

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But they have to have a

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business model first.

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So this does not work for

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anybody who does not know

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what they're doing.

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They need to go in to turn

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your talent into business first.

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I love that.

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And you're doing it with the

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people that resonate with you,

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resonate with this larger mission.

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I call it the collective.

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You call it something else

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like the founders of the future.

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I call it the conscious Avengers.

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Like we are all in this space where,

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you know, we have...

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we're moving the paradigm,

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but we're doing it in this

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collective fashion,

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which means like you and I

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are very much connected in

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that space of understanding

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because we've gone through

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our own journey and we've sort of,

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we're almost in this,

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we're almost in this.

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I feel like this, like for me, it's like,

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I'm almost in the sense

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where I can see the prophecy, right?

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We can see what's coming.

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Not as clearly as day from

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the shamanic perspective,

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like where we see, see, but like,

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it's like,

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we're here to grow something

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bigger than us.

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genius that we're creating

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in order to make our

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imprint our influence in the

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world and when we do that

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from ourselves that's why I

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love helping entrepreneurs

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you know optimize their

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whole body mind and spirit

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so they're overflowing so

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then their business

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overflows and people like

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you can help them in this

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beautiful way to move it

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forward and then that

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ripple effect becomes so

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great because it's it's

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bigger than any of us and

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this is why I think we're

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all getting into that space of like

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like you said, it's like you're, you're,

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you're almost,

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you're giving away your IP.

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it's not about you owning the thing.

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these wisdom keepers that

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are emerging and,

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It's so beautiful because

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it's coming in the

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modernized space of this world,

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but it's what the ancients

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have been doing.

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It's the principle, yeah.

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It's what the ancients have been doing.

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They call them wisdom keepers, right?

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They're the ones that are

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just holding that wisdom.

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journey in Peru and I came out,

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it's like I no longer have to teach.

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I just share.

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I share my experience.

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I share these things like,

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have twenty thousand

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community pharmacies in

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this country alone that are

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waiting for something new

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to come because the old

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system's completely crushed

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the reimbursement models

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grow backwards they're not

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making money and you know

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the prescriptions just mask

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the symptoms they don't

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help people and it's like

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well if I created that

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model then everybody else

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can learn how to heal and

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grow and the powers that be can't

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And aren't a part of that

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because we're teaching

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people how to become their

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own pharmacists,

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like how we're helping the

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body and the mind and the

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spirit heal from within.

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Not this external stuff, you know,

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and then these

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entrepreneurs that I love

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working with because I'm an entrepreneur.

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It's like the same thing.

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It's the same process is like,

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do you first?

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expand grow get your

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capacity moving you know

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get yourself in that new

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state of being and aligned

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with your perfect authority

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and you're perfect and you

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I love how you're guiding

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people to understand where

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that comes from that

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journey from within in

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their own mind right in

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their own way and then you're building

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I think that's,

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and I love that you see

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this so clearly because

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what happens is that the

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entire marketing world has

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been designed to make you want more,

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right?

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It's a game.

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So you are being forced into

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someone else's system that

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they designed that works

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for them and that's then

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hailed as the one size fits all.

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It cannot work.

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something and that's your

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internal connection, your resonance,

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your alignment with what

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you're being taught and

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you're going through the

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motion and then you're

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looking for something else.

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And guess what?

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The internet marketing

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affiliate happens to have a

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very logically sounding

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offer with a lot of good

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ethical persuasion ready for you.

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you're back into someone

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else's model that they perfected.

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And it's again, not working for you.

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And now you're going to go and say, well,

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there must be something

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else that can connect these things.

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Guess what?

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Another affiliate offer

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comes in only ten thousand

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dollars this time.

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And in only six weeks, you know,

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with a certified something,

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something you are going to

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X to do X and it's not working again.

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Now you're getting really frustrated.

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Now you don't trust anybody anymore.

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And I looked at this, and believe me,

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I've spent hundreds of

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thousands of dollars in this,

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and it never worked.

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And I'm considering myself

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as relatively smart and technology savvy.

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What's not working is if you

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do not have a connection to

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the reason you're doing this,

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and the model is built on what you want,

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it can not work.

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The tactics, the tools, the strategies,

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AI systems,

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technology is here to support the creator,

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not the creator to support the tech,

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which is what Mark

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Zuckerberg would like you to want.

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That keeps you plugged into

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his system and that keeps

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you plugged into keep going

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and keep going and keep like the system.

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We could plant what you said

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marketing does with the

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same thing that pharma does or big food.

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It's like one size fits all,

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keep them going,

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let's keep you less sick

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and wanting more.

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And that's not sustainable

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in this new future, in my opinion,

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at least.

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Yeah.

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And that's why it takes

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people that are emerging everywhere.

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And my next client I'm going

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to talk to in about a half hour,

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she's a dentist.

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And she's coming from the

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dentist perspective.

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She's building a whole

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Ayurvedic concept to help

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dentists to figure out how

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to not burn out and help

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patients without all the...

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toxic stuff.

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I think that's the beauty

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of all this is it can be

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this the this this way this

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this way and manner in

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which we're talking can be

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put in any different

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category yes it's in

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resonance like this is

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where I think things I know

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why things are falling into

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place for me and I I love

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this because like that's

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what I feel like pharmacies

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can do and doctors can do

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and and I can connect her

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with people that I know

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with dentists because this

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is all like I always say

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like the world needs

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wellness there is no competition

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The world needs healing, right?

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We don't need fixing.

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We need healing.

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And so you can do it from a

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marketing perspective.

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This is why I would love to

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connect more because we're

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all in this work together

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because we're creating this new future,

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which is so much more aligned with

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this collective whole we're

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just the part is the whole

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and that's just how it

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works and that's just how

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the universe works and so

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it is in this new alignment

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that I think which is why I

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think ai and all these

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other tools they're they're

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here to help us become more

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human they're here us to

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help us be not do and move

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us to the future where

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it's and and when you get it

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you get it it's like we're

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not giving away everything

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profit's not a dirty word

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but we can use it to help

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more people and more people

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and more people and so and

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and the clarity of this

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hokey stuff and this

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marketing language and it's

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interesting enough

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that the biggest marketers,

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I just got an email from

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one of the biggest internet marketers.

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And he's like, well,

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we're shutting down

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everything that we've done.

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So you can have everything

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we've done up until here

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for five hundred dollars.

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That's like worth, you know,

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the stuff is great.

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It's like worth what he's giving away.

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One hundred fifty thousand

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dollars for five hundred dollars.

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we need to shift.

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are at a pivotal moment,

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I think that message has gone out.

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And so the question that I

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ask your listeners is,

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if you have heard the call,

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what are you going to do?

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What are you going to do?

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Because thanks to shows like

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yours and shows like mine,

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I run the Business Growth

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Architect show where we

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have these types of

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conversation about how does

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strategy and spirituality intersect?

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And how do you build a

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business that has these two

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pieces aligned?

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The information is out there.

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If you are called, please don't wait.

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We need to get to critical

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mass as soon as we can,

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because people that break

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stuff don't build stuff.

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We have two years to get our

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founders of the future

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ready and prepared to start

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building because when

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they're done with whatever

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insanity this is and how

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they're doing it and the

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volatility and the language

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and the meanness and

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whatever that might be, it cannot sustain,

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but we cannot interfere.

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We must wait until it's done

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what it needed to do.

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I agree.

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These people don't know how to build.

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They only know how to be

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mean and break stuff.

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So the people that build

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must be prepared and emerge.

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I just tingled on that one.

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That was powerful.

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And I think that's a really

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so where can people find

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you if they need to get a

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hold of you and be a part

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of this movement?

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Yes, of course.

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This collective.

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Yeah, the empty part of our container.

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Yes.

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So go to growtharchitect.biz.

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There's a lot of information

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on my website.

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If you're interested in

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Inforum or in our SaaS model,

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the easiest way is just go

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schedule an Uncovery session.

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It's a

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I'm still in that space

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where I want to talk to

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people and understand where they are,

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what they're going through,

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what they want,

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because I'm building for them.

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So I would love to have the conversation.

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You can find me anywhere on social media,

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LinkedIn and Instagram, my two socials.

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main ones.

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I'm also really loving Substack.

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I think that a lot of the

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thought leadership and the

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resistance is building on Substack.

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Great conversation.

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So I recommend anybody to go there.

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But yeah, Uncovery Session or just DM me,

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LinkedIn,

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Instagram is probably the

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fastest way to get to me.

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Amazing.

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This has been such a

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beautiful conversation.

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Thank you so much.

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Now you know everything.

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Yes.

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No,

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I know we're going to connect more

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because this is why I love,

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this is like a beautiful

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discovery session for me to

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like have those strategic

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alliance partnerships where

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we're all doing it for the right,

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I don't even say reason anymore.

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It's the right alignment,

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the resonance that's happening.

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And I'm in full alignment

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with this because the people that I'm

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working with now,

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like we're forming a men's entrepreneur,

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dad,

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and men's alliance that is rooted

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just like this.

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It's like all the

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entrepreneurs moving

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forward and then having that business

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merged with the spirituality

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is so key for me.

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And for so many people in

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this path that we,

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we all in this together in

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this beautiful light.

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So this has been very powerful for me.

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I know that we'll be

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connecting in the future.

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Um,

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I've already got plenty of notes.

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I would love to connect and

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work with you more and see

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how we can help each other grow.

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Oh yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure.

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Because I think that there's

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also probably a business

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model that can be designed

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specifically for your

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audience to help them connect.

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Yeah,

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it's funny how you say that because

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I've got this vision in my

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head of the Beyond the

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Pills Collective where we're bringing in

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not only people,

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but practitioners and entrepreneurs,

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where it becomes this thing

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that gets that underbelly moving.

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Like you said, the systems are broken,

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like pharmacy is broken and

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all these healthcare is broken.

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And now I love the breakers

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aren't the builders.

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And we're building

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And I love,

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and the army needs to be formed here,

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right?

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This conscious army of growth-centered,

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heart-centered,

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beautiful people looking to

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do this for the future of

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not only themselves,

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their professions that are

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changing and evolving, let's say,

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and emerging and transforming,

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and then all in for that

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ripple effect for the

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humanity that we're all creating here.

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So we can

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you know,

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be earth keepers and turn this

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planet around and just have

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this beautiful age that's coming.

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So Biete, thank you so much.

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I think we could probably

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sit in a room with another nice,

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beautiful beverage and talk

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for another two hours.

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I think so too.

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I think so too.

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I can't wait to tell others

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about what you're doing,

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invite you to some of our networks and

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yeah I mean and if tyga is

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coming anywhere near you

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you tell me because I love

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that and of course how cool

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was that right um I will

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keep you abreast of that

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because we're building

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retreats based on that

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lineage for entrepreneurs

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to have breakthroughs in

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their careers and their lives

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yeah so this is so beautiful

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I love how god universe

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spirit I just call it gus

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now because um you're a

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beautiful soul you're a

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beautiful human thank you

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so much for all you're doing

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Thank you so much for having me.

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Yes, yes.

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And thank you all for listening.

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And will you please do Josh a favor,

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wherever you pick up this podcast,

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go there now,

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leave a five-star review and

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ideally a comment because

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the algorithms are driven

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by what people are saying,

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even if it's a heart that

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you put in there that helps

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to tell the algorithm that

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the things we're talking

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about here are important

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and valuable and it is a labor of love.

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So give Josh some love back.

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Thank you.

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Well received.

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Thank you, my new friend.

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We will be in touch.

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This has been beautiful, guys.

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Until that's a wrap.

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Until next time, stay well.

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Beyond the Pills
Where Timeless Wisdom Meets Modern Science For True Healing
In a world saturated with quick fixes and symptom-chasing, Beyond the Pills dares to ask: What if true healing starts from within?

Hosted by Josh Rimany, a conventionally trained pharmacist turned visionary in functional medicine, this podcast invites you on a journey to redefine what health really means. With over 220K global downloads, Beyond the Pills is a trusted source for those ready to move past the traditional model of medicine and step into a deeper, more empowered relationship with their mind, body, and spirit.

Each episode is a conversation that goes deeper than prescriptions—exploring the root causes of dis-ease, the power of lifestyle medicine, and the tools you need to take your health into your own hands.

Whether you're a health professional, conscious consumer, or simply someone who feels there must be more than medications, this podcast is your roadmap to vibrant, sustainable wellness.

🎙 What You’ll Hear Inside:

‣ In-depth interviews with leading experts in integrative health, biohacking, functional medicine, plant medicine, neuroscience, and more.
‣ Real-world strategies to support mental clarity, gut health, hormonal balance, immunity, and energy.
‣ Tools and tech for optimizing your health—from wearable devices to ancient healing practices.
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‣ Stories of transformation from patients and practitioners who have gone beyond the pill bottle and found lasting wellness.

Why Beyond the Pills?

Because health is not just the absence of disease—it’s a state of vitality, alignment, and intention.

Josh Rimany combines the best of both worlds: the credibility of clinical science with the soul of holistic healing. With decades of experience in pharmacy and a passion for root-cause medicine, Josh guides listeners toward a lifestyle that’s proactive, personalized, and purpose-driven.

Beyond the Pills is where ancient wisdom meets cutting-edge science, offering practical steps that anyone can take—regardless of where they are on their health journey.

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