#90: Mushrooms as Medicine: The Fungitarian Revolution With John James Staniszewski

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welcome welcome back to this

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episode of beyond the pills

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I am josh rimini pharmacist

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turned healer and today I

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have a very special guest

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uh john james staniszewski

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who is the creator of

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fungitarian.life a wellness

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platform rooted in the

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power of mushrooms to heal

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the body mind and spirit I

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think we have some things

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to talk about today uh he's

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the as the co-founder of

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windy city mushrooms

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the largest organic gourmet

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mushroom farm in the Midwest,

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John James has helped

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redefine what it means to

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grow real food and live in

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harmony with nature.

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but his journey goes deeper

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beyond functional mushrooms

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and farm-to-table innovation.

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John is a powerful advocate

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for the sacred and

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psychedelic use of

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mushrooms as tools for personal awakening,

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traumatic healing, and spiritual growth.

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Drawing from both

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traditional knowledge and modern research,

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he blends entrepreneurship

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with a deep reverence for plant medicine.

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I think we're gonna have a lot in common,

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my friend.

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Whether his developing

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liposomal mushroom

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formulations or guiding

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others towards deeper self-connection,

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John is here to remind us

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that nature is the original

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pharmacy and mushrooms

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might just be the gateway

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to the healing we've been seeking.

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Welcome to the show, my friend.

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Thank you, Josh.

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Pleasure, pleasure, pleasure to be here,

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my friend.

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How does it sound when you hear these bios,

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right?

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Because I love making them

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in our conversations,

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but there's a lot to talk about here.

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We connect instantly because

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I've been a fan of functional mushrooms,

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psychedelics, psilocybin,

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been a part of my healing journey,

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even down to the liposomals.

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That's been studied for

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fifteen years in my brain.

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Let's get at it, man.

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Let's just go.

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Yeah, dude.

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I mean, honestly, like, yeah.

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I mean, I know we had our pre-podcast,

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but we didn't stop talking.

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You know, it was just an easy flow.

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I loved it.

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Man, yeah.

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People always ask that too.

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Like, dude,

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you really do all of these

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things or did all of this stuff?

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And it's like, people always ask like,

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dude, how old are you?

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Or what if you do?

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And I was like, man,

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I feel like I've already

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lived like three lifetimes.

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you know,

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and it's literally just the start.

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I'm, man, where do we go first?

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Well, let's start with your journey.

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Like how,

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how did your relationship with

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mushrooms begin and how did

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it evolve into growing?

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Twenty thousand pounds a month.

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Yeah.

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I always love people's

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backstories because it's

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I can't tell you how many times my story,

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this story,

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like the synchronicities that

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happen along this journey.

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I love talking about it.

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So let's just start with that.

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Yeah, for sure, man.

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So before I was the mushroom guy,

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I was a competitive

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bodybuilder and bodybuilding coach,

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as well as personal trainer

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and nutrition coach for over a decade.

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I started at like eighteen,

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nineteen years old.

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My grandpa was a personal

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trainer until he was

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seventy seven years old.

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Uh, so, you know,

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fitness and health has been

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embedded into me.

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Um, and during that time, uh, you know,

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I was coding in gym training, doctors,

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lawyers, all sorts of people.

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I really built like a really

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good solid training

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foundation in business.

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Uh, Sponsored by supplement companies.

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And during this time, um,

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it was the best I ever

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looked and the worst I ever felt.

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And so.

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I ended up slightly tearing

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my L four L five doing like

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five hundred pound deadlifts, you know,

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because that's what everybody does.

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And instead of just, you know,

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rehabbing it or surgery or doing anything,

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I got prescribed Norcos,

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ten milligram Norcos.

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And so I started just eating

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five of those a day.

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And, you know, you you know,

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the chemistry of the body and everything.

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Some people have

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a tired effect from them and

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some people can use them

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and feel like they're

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superman and well it gave

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me superman powers right

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and so I didn't I was able

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to train longer I was able

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to work out more I was able

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to just push past any of

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the pain it gave me energy

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and so you know during this

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time it went from

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five a day to ten a day to

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fifteen a day to up all the

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way up to twenty you know

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um so I was eating about

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twenty norcos a day and

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when I couldn't get norcos

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I would do oxycontins and

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it it really consumed my

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whole life and like luckily

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at that time I you know was

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making good money training

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so I was but I was spending

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a ton of money on just

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getting pills and just

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trying to maintain functioning

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At my highest level but at

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this time I was also a

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caretaker for my whole

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family my I was taking care

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of my grandparents and my

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mother and My grandfather

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passed away in and that's

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when I started eating a

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bunch more of the opiates and then when I

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It was twenty eighteen and

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my mother passed away.

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And so at that point,

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I just had my grandmother

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left and I made a promise

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that I would make sure that

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I took care of her.

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But at the rate that I was going,

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it looked like I was

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basically going to kill myself, you know.

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And I had I was trying for

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about six months using

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Kratom to try to get off of them.

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And then I was trying to use Suboxone,

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which is like government methadone.

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And ended up just getting

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addicted to those two

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things and trying to use

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those as a crutch instead.

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So then on January six, twenty eighteen,

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I was that was at my house

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and I was up that night just researching,

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like, how can I get off of opiates?

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You know,

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and I knew at the time I was also

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a partner in a hormone clinic.

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So I also knew that.

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the only two things you can

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die from withdrawal is

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alcohol and benzos and I

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knew I couldn't die from

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opiates it was just

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terrible and I stumbled

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upon an article that the

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founder of aa founded aa

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and all its principles

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using a magic mushroom trip

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and I was like huh I was

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like well if you can cure

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alcoholism with magic

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mushrooms I'm sure you can

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cure this opiate thing

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and lo and behold my like

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pseudo italian uncle came

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by like six months before

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that and was like hey

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johnny I grew all these

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mushrooms I don't know what

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to do with them hang on to

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them and I was like yo

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marky I've never touched

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mushrooms in my life crazy

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you know like uh and so I

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realized I had like a

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little bag of mushrooms in

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my closet and so I went in

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and I didn't do any research

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I grabbed four grams,

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maybe almost five grams of mushrooms.

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Good amount.

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This is a very good amount.

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There's a very heroic dose, you could say.

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And that night I took those

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mushrooms and I had a

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spiritual come to God experience.

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And God said he would save

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my life if I saved the

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world with mushrooms.

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And that happened from like

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midnight to like five

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o'clock in the morning,

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six o'clock in the morning.

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And I fell asleep and woke

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up at around noon.

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And for the first time in

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two and a half years,

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I didn't want an opiate.

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And so my craving for it was just gone.

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And so I just thought I

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found the miracle cure.

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I thought I found something

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that was powerful.

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put here to help not only me

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but thousands and thousands

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of other people you know

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and then so uh being the

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you know a little stubborn

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person that I am I was like

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all right well cool if I

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fix this I could I can fix

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anything so I tried it

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again and again and I

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stopped vaping and I

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stopped caffeine all in a

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week um and so from that

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moment on I was like okay

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this is it.

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Like, this is the answer.

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And, but, you know,

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this is twenty eighteen.

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Everybody was like,

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what are you talking about?

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Like, they're not like I was like,

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this is it.

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Psilocybin is going to be legal.

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Eventually, it's going to happen.

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We're going to we're going to do this.

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And so I started telling

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some of my clients about it.

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And

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So I started researching and

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finding out about

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microdosing and it

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alleviating and helping the

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stress response in the brain.

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And so I realized that a lot

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of my healthy patients or

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healthy clients had autoimmune diseases.

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And I was like, huh?

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I was like,

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I think if you were to use some of this,

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that you can get rid of

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your autoimmune diseases.

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It was just a theory.

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and so they tried it on

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their own independent and

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we started fixing psoriasis

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eczema suppressing herpes

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my one client nicholas got

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off seizure medication

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after ten years and having

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two service dogs uh and his

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doctor didn't really know

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what to tell him so at that

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point um I knew that this

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was something beyond

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special that this was

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something that I could dedicate, you know,

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my life to.

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And at this time I'd never

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grew anything in my life,

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like farthest from being

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able to do anything.

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I just, I had no passion or desire for it.

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And so all of a sudden I started,

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started exploring that,

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but I wasn't really,

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I wasn't really going full force.

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I was like talking with people about it,

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trying mushrooms.

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And this was maybe like three months in.

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And I ended up, uh, I was,

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I went in for a training

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session one day and I was

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showing a client how to do

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a one arm tire flip.

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We had,

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we had large tires and I go up and

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my bicep explodes and rolls

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up into my chest.

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And so I like, yeah, if you can see,

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I lost like half my bicep, uh, from this.

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And so that was kind of my

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sign that it was time to, uh, uh,

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give up using my body for

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what I did in my life and

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to use my mind and to focus

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on this mushroom thing.

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So I essentially sold off

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all my training business,

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got rid of the majority of my clients,

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sold parts of my gym and

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decided to dedicate all my

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time and effort into

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studying mushrooms and

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becoming a self-taught mycologist.

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And so at this time, I literally

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just got every single

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mushroom book I could

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possibly get my hands on

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and read them from front to back.

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I got online and started

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looking at websites like

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the Shroomery and just

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really figuring out mushrooms as a whole.

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And then the rest kind of

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transpired into it all.

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I don't know if you want me

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to keep rolling with it or wait,

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but the story gets longer

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and there's more stuff.

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Well, it's an amazing journey, right?

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Yeah.

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part of it is just where

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people come from like how

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these random events that

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seem random but are so

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synchronistic in our lives

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that bring us to these aha

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moments you know um and and

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how every step in between

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beginning before that we're

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all in line to get you to

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where you want to be and I

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just love those stories so

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thanks for sharing that and also like

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There's the back story,

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but then there's the story, right?

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Like this wasn't like, oh,

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you just decided to do it

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because you got a thought

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like you had to do the work.

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You had to learn.

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You had to.

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And I think a lot of people

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just feel like there's

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things that they just need to do.

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And when they when they're

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when you make up that

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decision that belief is

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there like it doesn't feel

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like work even though it's

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hard right even though it's

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got a lot of that and I

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sense that with how you

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speak with it it's great I

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call it going all in it's

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just making the decision to

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be all in on your belief

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because belief creates your

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reality and if you are dead

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set on that you can

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manifest yourself what you

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desire in real time but

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You know,

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I think a lot of people get it

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misconstrued because it

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still comes with a shit ton of work.

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You know, it takes a lot of work.

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But, you know,

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that's really what I try to

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convey to people, though, is like,

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I didn't know anything.

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Nobody taught me this.

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Nobody gave me the playbook.

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Like, but we have access to the Internet.

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You can learn anything.

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you can figure out anything you want,

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but you have to be all in

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and knowing that, uh,

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that's your definite purpose and desire.

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Well, I think that's important too.

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Like, you know, when, when we talk,

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like work is work, right?

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It's the definition of it.

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Like you got to do the job,

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you got to do the things you do.

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But if you,

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love what you do and you do

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what you love and you

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feeling that you have some

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deeper meaning behind it, right?

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That's where purpose comes

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from and the passion.

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And, and,

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and I think that's when that

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becomes that guiding star for people,

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right?

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It's like, you know, I didn't,

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I didn't really know where I was going,

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but I knew I had that direction.

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This is what I was going to do.

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And you, again,

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I love this because you

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made the decision and then you did it.

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Right.

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Some people get washy around

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if and when and should and this.

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And then all of a sudden,

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no decision creates the bottleneck.

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It's like you went all in.

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You said, you know what,

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this is what I'm going to do.

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And here comes here comes

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the Lincoln lobs.

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Right.

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Here comes the little all comes into play.

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And it's cool.

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And then.

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I love that because I'm an

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entrepreneur at heart, right?

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And so I love speaking to

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entrepreneurs of like

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building something from

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like a thought bubble to a

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seven figure biggest

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gourmet organic mushroom

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farm in the Midwest, right?

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Like, yeah, like Josh,

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I put even it to watch it.

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unfold in real time kept me

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in awe and amazement

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because I didn't know how

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it was going to happen I

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didn't know the way that it

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was going to unfold the

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universe conspired to unify

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things within my field to

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allow me to perpetuate this

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idea and from going from

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studying at my house to then

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starting a cordyceps

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mushroom farm in my house

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and producing fifteen,

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twenty pounds a month of

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this and selling it on Etsy

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and all over the place to

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then buying a mushroom farm.

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The literally I go to

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Mississippi or Missouri to

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buy all the equipment at

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Mississippi Mushrooms to in

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February of twenty twenty.

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The day of COVID,

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I have sixty fifty sixty

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thousand dollars worth of

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equipment on a truck coming

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to Chicago the day the world is closing.

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And I was like, what?

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This is not this is not how

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this was planned.

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You know, like this is this is not it.

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There's no way.

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And I had to just put all

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that equipment luckily at a

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friend's warehouse and

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store it because I couldn't

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rent out space.

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I couldn't do anything and

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end up going back to

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growing cordyceps to end up

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finding out that Windy City

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Mushrooms was just started

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ten minutes down the street

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from my gym in downtown

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Chicago in the middle of

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the hood in an old fish factory.

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and I got word of it.

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And I was like,

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there's no mushroom farm in Chicago.

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What are you talking about?

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And I found out with my

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partner guy now who was a, um,

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He was trying to be,

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he was growing mussels indoors.

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He was trying to be an

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intermediary between the

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East Coast and the West Coast.

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It didn't work out.

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He converted into a one room

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mushroom farm and was buying blocks.

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And he had like a couple

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restaurant contracts.

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And he was like, hey,

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would you guys take

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mushrooms if I grew some of them?

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So he had like a year left

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on the lease and was just

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trying to do something.

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And I ended up meeting him like,

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seven months into the

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business and he didn't know

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anything about mushrooms,

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but he was a good engineer

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and he was crafty.

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And so when I met him, I was like, oh shit,

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like, you know, I can do this.

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Like we got to fix this, this, this,

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and this.

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And we agreed, I was like,

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I need space to expand my

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cordyceps business.

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And I was like,

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let's trade time for space.

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And I essentially became the

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mycologist there while we

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started when he said he cordyceps.

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And I started a very large

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cordyceps production business

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there.

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And during that time, you know,

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started crafting and

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getting the grows better,

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getting the mushrooms better,

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getting all of the gourmets going.

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And we ended up, you know,

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coming to this agreement and this idea,

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this shared idea that,

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if we were to manufacture

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mushrooms at a mass scale

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we can drive them down to a

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commodity level price point

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and if we bring them down

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to a commodity level price

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point we can penetrate the

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market where it's

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acceptable at grocery

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stores that's where it all

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came from and so at the

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time I I didn't know

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Uh,

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my partner was a high net worth

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individual and he was able to put,

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you know,

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a lot of his savings and the

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rest of my savings into

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going and getting this.

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Fifty thousand square foot

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warehouse on the South side

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of Chicago and building

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this mushroom farm from scratch.

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And essentially, uh, we,

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we did that on a whim and

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in four months put a twenty

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foot autoclave.

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Oh.

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Side note, as we're moving into the place,

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in order to cook all of these mushrooms,

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you need an autoclave.

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An autoclave is a gigantic sterilizer.

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And we ended up getting a

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call from a shiitake farmer

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that his kids didn't want the business.

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It was like, hey,

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as we're looking online for

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hundred thousand dollar

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autoclaves in China.

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hey,

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do you guys want this autoclave for

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thirty five hundred bucks?

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You just got to get it

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shipped up here from

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Mississippi or Missouri.

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I was like, yes.

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They literally had this

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twenty foot tube shipped up

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here and unloaded this

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thing into the factory,

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but basically built out all

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the rooms and then took

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twenty five old shipping

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containers and stack them

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on top of eight foot by

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twenty foot shipping

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containers and stack them

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on top of each other and

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converted them into mushroom grow rooms.

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and had this basically

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mushroom playground to

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start growing massive

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amounts of gourmet

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mushrooms with a team of

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like six people who had

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zero construction skills.

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And, you know,

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we're just the hodgepodge

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crew of just people who are

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dedicated to this.

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And yeah, that's how that got started,

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man.

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It was wild.

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Oh, I love it.

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And it's, it's,

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it's like the how doesn't matter, right?

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You get your what, your why clear.

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And all of a sudden you

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throw the how and the when out the window,

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because I know in my life

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now that things that are

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same stuff's happening for me.

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It's like, boom, it just fell in my lap.

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Oh,

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that perfect person you were looking

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for to do the X, Y,

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and Z that you need now,

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like literally emailed me.

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It was like, here,

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I'm looking for a job and

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here's my skill sets.

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And I'm like, how is that possible?

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Because this is an

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impossible skill set that I look for.

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It's like, instead of go getting it,

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it's like it comes find you.

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And then I always just love it.

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I think Joe Dispenza says it a lot.

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It's like,

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when it happens in the way you

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least expected it,

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then you know it's true.

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No way that autoclave was

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just going to happen that way, right?

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You found the internet,

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you're looking and then there it comes.

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It's because you surrendered to it.

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And funny you mentioned that.

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I literally do a twenty

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three minute and forty two

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second meditation every

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single morning from Joe Dispenza.

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His books and everything has

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definitely helped shape

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a lot of this and a lot of

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this belief and where I got

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most of this plan came from

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a forty five minute

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meditation from him and I

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came out of it wrote a five

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year plan and it's

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unbelievable how close I am

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to yeah I think there he's

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just he speaks the science

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of the woo which makes it

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easy for me because I got

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that functional brain for

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me and that was how that

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was my path to

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consciousness and then also

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that parallel path of me

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rediscovering like

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mushrooms and psilocybin

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post-college into the

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healing space was like my double,

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like my double backed

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introduction into not an

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ordinary states of consciousness and,

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and this whole universe of

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beautiful things that are

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beyond our scope of reality

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that we're looking at, you know?

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And so I love that story, man.

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So you created fungitarian life, right?

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yeah right so let's talk

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about what what does being

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a fungitarian really mean

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to you it means uh immense

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power and change within how

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we view ourselves and how

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we view the world of food

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and what we've been told um

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it first started as a

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identity because uh me and

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my co-founder fungitarian

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matt were like yo what are

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mushroom people yo like

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there's vegetarians out

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there there's carnivores

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there's all those people

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what do we get you know

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And then we we decided upon fungitarian.

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So we're like, OK, cool.

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We're fungitarian.

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He eats plants.

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I eat meat,

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but we still eat fungi every day,

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you know.

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And so that's where it first started.

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And it really came off of

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the food line that we

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created from using excess

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mushrooms that we couldn't

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sell to grocery stores or

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anything because we were

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thousands of pounds of

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mushrooms we couldn't sell.

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It was crazy.

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We got plaques and all this

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different stuff from food banks,

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from being in mosques and churches,

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from being like the largest

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donator of food for the year.

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Nobody was buying these things yet,

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you know?

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And so we ended up coming up

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with Fungitarian to call it our food line,

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which was thinly sliced oyster mushrooms,

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sauce seasoned, ready to heat and eat.

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So a real food item with mushrooms,

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seasoning, and avocado oil.

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That's it.

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And so I wanted to make a health food.

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And within that, though,

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we really started.

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We started getting a lot of

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people who also wanted to

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embrace a fungitarian

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lifestyle where they were

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incorporating mushrooms not

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only into their food,

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but into their supplement

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routine and into their idea

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that it is an actual kingdom.

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And that fungi have just

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been missed on this planet.

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And what we're trying to do

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is bring back truth through nature.

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And I have a fungitarian declaration.

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Can I read it?

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Please.

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Cool.

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We are not here to play it safe.

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We are here to change the

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world one mushroom at a time.

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They tried to numb us.

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They fed us food with no soul.

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Push pills instead of healing.

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Told us to trust the system

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that profits off our sickness.

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But we woke up.

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And when we did, we didn't just walk away.

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We built something better.

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We became fungitarians.

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We chose mushrooms as medicine.

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We eat to heal, not to just feel full.

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We don't just care about longevity.

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We care about vitality.

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This isn't a trend.

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It's a movement,

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a rebellion powered by mycelium, truth,

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and love.

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We believe that you can

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reset your brain with

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lion's mane instead of

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another cup of coffee.

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You can fill your body with

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real food instead of dead calories.

Speaker: 00:25:43

And you can heal your spirit

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through nature, not numbing.

Speaker: 00:25:47

We are a new generation of influencers,

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parents, rebels, healers, protectors,

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and creators.

Speaker: 00:25:51

We stand for kids.

Speaker: 00:25:52

We stand for the planet.

Speaker: 00:25:53

We stand for a better future

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where the food is the

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medicine and the community is the cure.

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We don't shame those still asleep.

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We shine so bright they can't ignore us.

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And we lead with results, not fear.

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And we're just getting started.

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One mind at a time, one mushroom at a time,

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one million,

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then ten million fungitarians at a time.

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This is your invitation.

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I love it, man.

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It's just such a resonance because.

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There's a capital T truth in it, right?

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There's it just, it resonates.

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Like I'm building a men's

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vitality program where

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longevity center has

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nothing to do with living longer.

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It's staying well, it's being well,

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it's living body, mind, and spirit,

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bringing back the fungi in

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this way of like, you know,

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the true power of food is medicine.

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is understated right food

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coming from the earth

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coming from gaia coming

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from god universe spirit

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whatever however it got

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here it's been here

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millions of years and this

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is where the word because

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the buzzword is functional

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right functional mushrooms

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functional medicine you

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know but what we're really

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looking at here is these things are like

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I'm sitting in a functional

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medicine training because

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I'm certified in the modality.

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It's just the science of wellness.

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And here is Terry Walls

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talking about her MS or

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cognition reversal program.

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And the foundation of it all

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is lion's mane.

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She's like,

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if you pump a bunch of lion's

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mane into people,

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they're going to reverse

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their cognitive decline.

Speaker: 00:27:42

They're going to reverse the

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myelin problems in the brain.

Speaker: 00:27:46

And so it's like,

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it just keeps sparking the

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same answers that we're looking for.

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It's like these healing, you know,

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this podcast is all about

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healing and transformation

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has nothing to do with

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symptom management has

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nothing to do with the pill

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for the ill or the green

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pill for the ill.

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Cause it's this supplement stack.

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That's going to make you look great.

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I do love,

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Let me go back a little bit.

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I loved the point that you

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made that says I looked the best,

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but I was the sickest.

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And I think a lot of people

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think like I eat right, I exercise,

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but the environment inside

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my body is a wreck and my

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stress is a wreck and it's killing me.

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So I always use those other

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two pillars to really put

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the focus on their health

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is emotional well-being and

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environmental well-being.

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because we can teach diet lifestyle.

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But here we are talking

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about the world of functional mushrooms.

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You mentioned lion's mane.

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You mentioned, you know, we've got reishi,

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chaga,

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all these different kinds of

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mushrooms now that have so

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much science behind them.

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And they're so, I love adaptogens.

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I love how these things work

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in the body because that's

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the harmony for me is this

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stuff that comes out of the ground.

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that works in our bodies, in our chemistry,

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in a harmonistic way, which is awesome.

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So talk to people about your,

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your take on that, you know,

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using these mushrooms for

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health and healing, not just for food.

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And then now I got to dive

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into liposomal at some point,

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because it's just my jam.

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I can't wait.

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I've been so excited to talk about that.

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One of my favorite things, like,

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like mushroom technology with like,

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you know, nutrient delivery technology,

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which is huge because I'm,

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I'm developing this with

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hormones and testosterone

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and we're launching this stuff.

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And so I want to talk about

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the science and the,

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just your experience with

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the functional side and the healing side.

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But then I want to talk to you about like,

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how did,

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how does that go and where do we

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go from there?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So I'm not,

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I'm not sure what what doctor

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you're referencing,

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but talking about high

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loading lion's mane to

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reverse the cognitive decline.

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That's really the next

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precipice of where I want

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to go with this supplement line and

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I think the market as a

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whole has no idea what

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they're talking about and

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they're making prejudgments

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based off of other

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supplements rather than

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understanding that they're

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basing it off of other

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supplements and the ability

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to put a certain amount of

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milligrams into a serving

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that makes it affordable.

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And so that's really the issue here.

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But I will say firsthand that

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Try taking two thousand

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milligrams of lion's mane

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in a day and see what you feel.

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It's it's it's unparalleled, you know,

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and like there is levels of

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dosage that if you take it

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at a at a high enough dosage,

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a better enough concentration,

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you will make real time effects.

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You will feel it in real time.

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And so I think that's

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something that we're

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working on is figuring out

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how can we get more extract

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into the product while

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still making it affordable

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on our end for everybody to win.

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And I just think if we

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really want to see more

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profound healing or more profound effects,

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we start doing the research.

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on, you know,

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can we see the functionality

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in the brain with scans

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when taking this lion's mane,

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just like they do with

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psilocybin and showing the

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new neural pathways,

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the new connections that

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can happen at these higher doses?

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Can we actually determine

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that reishi is getting us

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that deep REM sleep that

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we're looking for?

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And is my ATP in my body

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truly going up by taking cordyceps?

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You know,

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there's all of these different

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markers that I think done,

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it's very dose dependent.

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And so I think now that we

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are starting to figure out that, well, A,

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most of these mushroom

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powders that are out there

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that have been sitting around,

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they degrade.

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and we don't people say it's

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like within days that the

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powder is degrading where

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it's not really beneficial

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and once you take the

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powder you're not truly

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absorbing it uh through

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your gut and I really think

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that we were on the cusp of

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this technology and the

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innovation of how we

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consume this medicine and

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the forms that we take it

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in um right now uh you know

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we decided to go the liposomal route.

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And because of all of the

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research that we have seen

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and that we have done,

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that that's truly the most

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efficient way for mushrooms

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to be absorbed into the body,

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especially doing it sublingually.

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People think that liposomes

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need to be absorbed in the stomach,

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but I don't believe so.

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You are the super expert on that.

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I believe that it's

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my understanding is that

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sublingually is also just as beneficial.

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And so we are really

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focusing on what are the

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scientific processes that

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we can blend with this

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ancient magic to be able to

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provide a superior product.

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And what we've noticed since

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we switched from,

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because I've been doing this for

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years you know like four or

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five years been making

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tinctures and I I really

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didn't think I was going to

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get the opportunity to

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create the supplement line

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um because I was so busy

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growing gourmet mushrooms

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like I was planning on

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being the largest cordyceps

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farm in the country back in

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twenty twenty one you know

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and doing all these

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supplements but I just

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didn't have the money to

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compete with marketing

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companies selling chinese products

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And so I was like, okay, well,

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I'm going to let somebody

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else do it and really, you know,

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really dominate and give the best product,

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but nobody ever did it.

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And so now coming back to this,

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working on this for the last nine months,

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realizing that we have the

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opportunity to give people

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real medicine to help them

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heal is a super blessing.

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And so I think, you know,

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I want to say like, we went from

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Steel extractions with alcohol,

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taking out alcohol, adding glycerin,

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getting rid of that,

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adding phosphatidylcholine.

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And it's just evolving rapidly.

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And with what we're

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understanding with the

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science and the extraction process,

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you know,

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I'm figuring out how can I

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isolate these compounds?

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Some machines like white

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film evaporators will where

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you can isolate.

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basically come from like the

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cannabis industry, right?

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And they have stuff like

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dabs and shatter where they

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can isolate it and turn it into diamonds.

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We're essentially looking at

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that of what we can do with mushrooms.

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And if I can isolate these compounds, um,

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that have the brain

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boosting benefits or the

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NGF in the lion's mane or

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the cordycepin and

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adenosine from cordyceps,

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and I cannot hyper

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concentrate that and then

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give it to you as a, uh,

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truly medical dose, you know, and I,

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I'm very,

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very excited for what is about

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to come and what we're

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learning about blending

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fruiting bodies and mycelium.

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Cause that's also another

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big fight within the industry.

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And it,

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and all about the delivery of about

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like how you're doing that,

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because I think adding, you know,

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so there's,

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undoubtable evidence is that

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the lion's mane mycelium

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has a lot of the uh

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beneficial um eranasins and

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heresions in the lion's

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mane that will benefit your

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brain but when

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What I have an opposition to

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that is that if you're just

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growing them on a bunch of

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grains and rice and then

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powderizing that and then

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using that mycelium,

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I don't think that's the right way.

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And in order to do it on the

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proper way would be to have

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very large bioreactors and

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liquid state mycelium and

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then taking that and pre-drying it,

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which is a very expensive process.

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And I would say most

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companies aren't doing that yet.

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It's something that we're

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working on and trying to achieve.

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But yeah,

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there's just every day there's a

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new development and that's

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the coolest part.

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Well,

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you can instantly understand why we

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got along so well in the

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beginning because what

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we're doing is we're

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blending ancient wisdom

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with modern science, right?

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People don't realize that

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we're at that cusp of

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understanding it's both.

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in art art like but people

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can kind of feel it with ai

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right it's like ai here

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what are we going to do and

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it's like no ai is here as

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a tool to catapult humanity

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in the right ways the same

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thing goes with like this

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is why this podcast and my

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beyond the pills philosophy

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and collective is is you

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know I teach people like

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functional medicine and

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quantum health and but I also teach them

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shamanistic ways and how

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they both intertwine

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because here you are

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figuring out what is it

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about these mushrooms

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that's so healing and then

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how do we deliver it in

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doses dose dependent right

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doses that are actually

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going to get an outcome not

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just for general well-being

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right if you fry up some

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mushrooms and saute them

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And you eat them with some

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herbs and some synergies

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and some good oils.

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Like, yeah, it's really good for you.

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And it's really good.

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But if we're going to

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reverse these issues we

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have in modern day science.

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So you're blending that

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you're putting them together,

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which is amazing because I've,

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I've been a fan of

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liposomals and I'm

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understanding more about

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the self emulsifiers and all the things,

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because yes,

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it can be done in the mouth

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and it should be for liposomal,

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but it's not sublingual.

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People think you just stick

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it in the mouth and absorbs.

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It's no, you got to get the particle size,

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right?

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You got to put it in the right mediums.

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You got to make sure they're done.

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But at the end of the day,

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if we make it more bioavailable,

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available to our biology, our body,

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our cells, that's where it does the work.

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especially with mushrooms,

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it's working straight up into the DNA.

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So I love that you're,

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you're using these modern

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day technologies.

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You're not just stopping

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with throwing a bunch of

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mycelium powder in a capsule and saying,

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it's good for you.

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That's like taking a taxi

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instead of an Uber.

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Nobody takes a taxi anymore.

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I'm telling you,

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because I'm doing the same

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thing with my testosterone, right?

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So I'm doing manual.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, definitely online.

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I'm launching it in a month

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or two because it's the same thing.

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It's like I can get it into

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the body more efficiently.

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So it means I get to use less.

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The body isn't shutting down

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because I'm giving it.

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Right.

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So you talked about it.

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It's a quantity problem.

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Right.

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You can't just give people two grams of,

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you know,

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lion's mane, you can give them,

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but if you can get it into the cells,

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twenty five times better,

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five to twenty five times

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more bioavailable just by

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doing it right with liposomes.

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But now we're so we

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definitely have offline

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talk because there's so

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much we can talk about.

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I just want to make sure people understand,

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like,

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it's not just the technology and the

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wisdom we have of these

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mushrooms coming back into society.

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in these beautiful ways you

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could say the same thing

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with adaptogens or herbs or

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but mushrooms especially

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because I think there's so

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much value in them um and

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I've used a lot of them in

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my like my coffee's infused

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with mushrooms like I get

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my daily dose and my coffee

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right yeah um is we we're

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at the precipice today not

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not ten years ago not even

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five it's like you can use these

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beautiful technologies to

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get this ancient beauty

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into the system where it's going to work.

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So I really, I really just wanted to pause,

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not only to tell the viewers about that,

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but to honor what you're doing,

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because you're right.

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I have not heard of anyone

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actually giving a shit about that.

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It's always like,

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let's make the supplements and let's just,

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let's drive.

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You say like,

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The Chinese product with the marketers,

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right?

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Like that,

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that's the opposite of intention.

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And, but see, like Josh,

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what I have learned is like

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from speaking on intention, right.

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Um,

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I learned that my frequency and my

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vibration goes into the mushrooms I grow.

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When people come up to me at

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farmer's markets for the

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last three or four years,

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they've had lines made other places.

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They've had oyster mushroom other places.

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They said, yours tastes the best.

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I've never had it like this.

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Your tincture works like that.

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It's because everybody on the team,

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everybody who makes this gives a fuck.

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They care about every part

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of the process and they

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care about the mushrooms

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that are going into it.

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And we all believe at

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Funkitarian that mushrooms

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are intelligent and that

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they listen and that they

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can hear and that how we

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treat them and the

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environment that they're in

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goes into the products that

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we're giving out.

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Well, here's the deal.

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It has consciousness.

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There's a reason for that.

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Right.

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I'm tingling all over my

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body when you say it,

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because it's the same only

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because like we're

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literally infusing energy

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into our compounds.

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I know they're better.

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I know they're better.

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And now,

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now I have maps and other

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frequencies and I can literally,

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I can dump love into the bottle.

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Yes.

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And that's what you do.

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Right.

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Everybody cares.

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But what we're talking about is energy.

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There's an energetic

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frequency match when you

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put love into what you do.

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And it's like there's

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science to why that's a better outcome.

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Right.

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We talk about the placebo

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effect all the time in

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pharmacy and why we wash it away.

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But in truth, in reality,

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I nurture the placebo effect.

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It's not nothing.

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There's a reason somebody

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gets better off nothing, nothing physical,

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right?

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You're not talking,

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I can't physically dump care in my bottle,

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but I can energetically.

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It all comes through the process, not like,

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and let's talk about intention.

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It's not like you're staring

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at the bottle going, I really love you.

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I'm putting some love in there right now.

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It's part of your being.

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Yes.

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Which means, yes,

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people are going to come up.

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And it's the same thing as

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if you walked into a room, guys,

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and you just saw that guy

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and he was magnetic versus

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the person who's the downer

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pissed off all day.

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You're like, whoa.

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Right.

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Same energy.

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Right.

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The energy of you.

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caring about it because it's

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your purpose it's your

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passion and that's the

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intangible effect I think

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people don't realize when

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they get outcomes in health

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and wellness for sure man

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like, I mean,

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I think you nailed that a

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hundred percent.

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I,

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I am such a big believer of the placebo

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and what we have the

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capability of constructing

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through the energetic

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output that we create within ourselves.

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You know,

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I am a magnet for everything that

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comes to me and I know that, but you know,

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it, it, if, if people could embrace,

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it's just, uh,

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I guess it's just great

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talking with you about it

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because you know that it's not woo-woo,

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it's actual science and

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that it's now back.

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And it's just about being able to,

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and I guess the hardest part,

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and it took me a while too, like,

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you know, years ago,

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was fully accepting the

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belief that that is true.

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Yeah, because you can't see it though.

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Like that's the thing.

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It really doesn't freaking

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matter whether it's woo or

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science because it actually is.

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does something like it does

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something we know the mind

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can make you sick it can

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make you well you know

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there's a connection we

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can't see it but you can't

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see the quantum universe

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either right or at least

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not on this plane um

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but like you know what I'm

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talking about like it's a

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like you said there's

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belief you can't prove that

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god exists or universe

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exists but it's there right

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but the merging of science

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there's no there's no

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difference now because

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science is emerging into the art into the

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the universal spirituality

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we're seeing it but I think

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our left brains need I did

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at least to have a

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mechanistic approach behind

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it yeah just to give me

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something that gives me

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some tangible of it but

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like energy is energy and

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so this is what we're

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talking about and this is why I think

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why I think people,

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hundreds of thousands of

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people listen to this podcast.

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The same thing.

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We connected in some random way.

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As soon as that happened, we just said,

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yeah, that makes sense.

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Let's talk.

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How did we connect?

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I don't even freaking know.

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I randomly saw on LinkedIn

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that you also wanted ten

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million people to stop taking pills.

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That was it.

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Ten million passions.

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yeah it was like wait

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ancient magic and modern

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science was like I'm

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ancient magic and future

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science that's me I gotta

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talk to that guy and then

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you reached out yeah and I

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got the email and I said

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yeah let's talk I even said

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like hey I'm fully booked

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out but we're gonna talk

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because we have to right

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it's just like that was it yeah

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And I love that because our

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missions are aligned and we

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are energetically matched

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that you just somehow

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randomly found me on LinkedIn.

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Like I don't even do much on it.

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No, no randomness.

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No, right.

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It's all.

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All of it.

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We have a mission of

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affecting ten million.

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Correct.

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But why?

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We will together because it

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is a collective.

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Right.

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Hundred percent.

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And like my thing is like,

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why ten million?

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And like from.

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From that,

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I know that it's about seven

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percent of the population.

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And I know seven percent of

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the population comes together.

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We can make substantial

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energetic change because

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that consciousness field

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will now have its own

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energetic field that can

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expand out and to do more.

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That's real reason.

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I can't put words.

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It's like it's not random.

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It's not funny that you said that.

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But it's like because we had

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an episode earlier about

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talking about the.

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it's almost like the flywheel effect.

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As soon as like,

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we talked about it from

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conscious entrepreneurs or something.

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It's like when people, when we get,

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what she said is she's like,

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once we get the, oh,

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we talked about the old

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systems breaking down and

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the new systems aren't

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gonna be built by the

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people that broke them.

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So she's like,

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I'm here to help the builders build.

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That is beautiful.

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And she's like,

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when there's about five percent of us

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that are here in this world

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being in the golden age of consciousness,

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then it moves forward.

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Right.

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So that five to seven, like that,

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that little percent,

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all that needs that flywheel to move.

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And so,

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and this whole universe is based

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off sacred geometry and math.

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And that's the equation.

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The equation is true.

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So it's like, it's like,

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how do you build that thing?

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And so I'm glad that you brought that up.

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Cause I never really,

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I never really put the two together.

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I just had a million.

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I said, screw it.

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We're going to ten X's, mother.

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And I said, and I was like,

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how can I get ten million

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unnecessary medications deprescribed?

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Unnecessary, right?

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How do you make them unnecessary?

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It wasn't all medications are awful.

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No,

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they're there for a reason when you're

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that sick.

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But we have to move that into the healing.

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So if we're healing someone,

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they don't need medicine.

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This is why big pharma,

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big food doesn't like us.

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Doesn't like you.

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They don't like you.

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True.

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They're in the system of

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just eat this stuff because

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it tastes good.

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Get your dopamine hit and

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take these medicines so we

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can make you less dead.

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That's basically how I see it.

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But there's there's reason for that.

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But and.

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Here we are going, well,

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how do we move beyond

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symptom management and into

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true healing and

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transforming someone's life?

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Because if you reverse

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cognitive dysfunction, diabetes,

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or any of these lifestyle

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components that are

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plaguing us right now,

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Well, this is how we do it.

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But how do you make something unnecessary?

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Well, you heal the body.

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How do you heal the body?

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You give it the right tools,

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the right signals, mushrooms, fungi.

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This is one of them, a big one of them,

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especially for the world

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that's super stressed out

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and super inflamed, right?

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Let's give it the right foods.

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And then you don't have to

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grow as much of it or take

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as much of it as we can get

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it into the system faster

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and easier and better.

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That's what we all talked about.

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Like,

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If you got anything out of this episode,

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we just did it in like, thirty seconds.

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And if you feel love,

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you'll get a ten X on your outcome.

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Super ten X. As long as you

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feel a bit love,

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you're gonna get the ten X.

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But that's the truth, man.

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And it's like,

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that's what we need to be conveying

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to people because there's

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just so much misinformation, you know,

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and that's why I have

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focused and I am focusing

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on just creating education

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and content and really

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putting out truth because

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there's just been so much

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misconstrued information

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from people trying to make a buck.

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And I don't give a, I care about it,

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but I give a fuck about

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telling the truth.

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And I want to put out the

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best possible information

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for people to thrive in this world.

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My mission is far beyond a dollar.

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And I hope people can

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understand that there's

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other people out there like me.

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There's like yourself.

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There's so many others that

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are trying to do the right thing.

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And that you can truly trust

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a brand or a supplement to

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help you heal and to help

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you go to that next level.

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But even on that...

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you know I want to express

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like one thing that I see a

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lot within the the uh I

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guess we want to call the

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psychedelic community or

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the spiritual community and

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uh people getting into this

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my whole thing is I believe

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that the medicine doesn't

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just do the healing

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I believe that humans are

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creatures of imitation and environment.

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And you need fundamentals in

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order to expand yourself

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and to me there's a playbook

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which requires eating real

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food and exercising your

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body whatever that might be

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first is two fundamental

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habits and then doing a

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psychedelic experience

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which will then allow you

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to build off of those two

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fundamentals to expand your

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consciousness but until you

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have that groundwork or

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that framework or your

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environment because you can

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take medicine and then go

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back into an environment

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that doesn't serve you

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around other people who are

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still eating processed food

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who are still asleep and

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that's going to draw you back in

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And so I want to figure out

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eventually where to do that

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to create these communities

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and to create a better

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foundation to get results quicker.

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Just like the liposomes,

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this is something I

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consider that like the

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liposomal delivery.

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It's the same thing.

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You need something to be

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more bioavailable to open

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up yourself to the truth.

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And those are the two things

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that I've seen that seem

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almost necessary in order

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to expand yourself.

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No,

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I think that's a huge piece because

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you've got to build from a foundation,

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right?

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A lot of people,

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especially in our West world brains,

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I'm glad you brought this up.

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And it has to do with

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healing and also preparation, right?

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The preparation for whether

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it's a non-ordinary state

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of psychedelic experience,

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healing experience, whatever it is,

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it's like you've got to

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treat the physical part of

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your body right.

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You have to.

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It's not just a dieta to be

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respectful of the medicine

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and the culture that created it.

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It's a big foundational

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pillar because if you build

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your house on shaky waters,

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it's never going to be right.

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My three-month longevity program

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It's literally rooted,

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like we work on body first.

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Like you got to get your nutrition.

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We got to get you moving.

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We got to get you sleeping.

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We got to get your relationships right.

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Then we move to the mind.

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We work on stress, resilience,

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and the adaptogens and looking at that.

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And then we work into the energetics.

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Yeah.

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Now you can go both ways.

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You can do it all at the same time.

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But the point I love that

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you made that you reminded me of was,

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we have to do it the right

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way and we have to do it in

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a way that makes sense.

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So thanks for bringing that up today.

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That was awesome.

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For sure, Josh.

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Absolutely.

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Where can people get that information?

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So I'm working on building

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more of that where people can in,

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cause I just finished

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building the fungitarian.life website.

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We're about to launch on TikTok shop.

Speaker: 00:54:48

instagram shop amazon and so

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I've been working on that

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currently you can find it

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at fungitarian.life.com you

Speaker: 00:54:58

can find me on instagram at

Speaker: 00:54:59

mr fungitarian facebook and

Speaker: 00:55:02

instagram fungitarian.life

Speaker: 00:55:04

I'm going to be creating

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more and more education

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mushroom education as much

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as I humanly can and

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In three to five months,

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I'm going to begin a coaching program.

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I'm going to be calling it microdiscipline,

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where I'm going to be

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working with men who are

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focusing on creating new

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purpose and new discipline

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within their life using

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fundamentals that I have

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mastered through my career

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and my lifetime on this planet.

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And so I am dead set on being able to

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build this supplement brand

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into the largest mushroom

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supplement company in the

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country and being able to

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provide it at a good price

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and the best medicine that

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I possibly can create.

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So I would say stay tuned

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because there's so much more coming.

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And it's always evolving, always growing,

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always like expanding.

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Yeah.

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We're definitely connecting

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on so many ways.

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Cause like, that's the same thing.

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Like I'm building out a

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men's vitality tribe, right?

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Nice.

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So many pillars because you,

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you are your avatar, right?

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It's just, that's, that's the easiest part,

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but like men's work to me

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is very important, but it is body, mind,

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spirit.

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It is,

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and it is growing into this new

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masculine and this new era

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where we're at in this

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being grounded and,

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And,

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and so we've got a lot of fun things

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to do.

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Cause I think we've got some

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real good cross so much, man.

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I can't wait to see,

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I can't wait to just keep

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evolving this relationship

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and seeing where your programs go.

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Same with mine.

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And, you know,

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now we have a shared connection to.

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I mean,

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it can only get us closer and closer now,

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you know?

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Well, and, and, and how can we, you know,

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it's like,

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I have this like vision of

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having this little ticker

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on the website and when

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everybody like puts a, you know,

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because mine's the beyond

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the pills collective.

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It became a collective.

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It's like every time someone

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gives us a review and says,

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I made a medic,

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I made my medication

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unnecessary because I did this,

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this and this.

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And my doctor said it was okay.

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Obviously we don't want

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anybody to stop medicine

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without their doctor.

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But then we give like,

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it pulls the trigger,

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it gives them like this beautiful, like,

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wahoo, yay, you're awesome, like,

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and then we can quantify it, like,

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all of a sudden, you know,

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five years from now, we see it actually,

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we reversed that with ten million people,

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it's like, I think, like, and of course,

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like, this is part of it, it's like,

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using these mushrooms in a beautiful way,

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you and I are both connecting on

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There is this renaissance period coming.

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He's already here with

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psychedelics and psilocybin.

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We'll probably have another

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chat about that at some

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point because that's where

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I feel both of us are

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moving in that direction as

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well and doing it safe and responsibly.

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We've done a ton of episodes

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about that because there's

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a dark side to all of that as well.

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There's a lot of abuse and

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there's a lot of

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a lot of stuff going on and

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I that's why education and

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platforms where people can

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be trusted and there's good

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energy and an ethics behind

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it ethics and intention are

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the two big things for me

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um from an energetic

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perspective and so this has

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been an awesome chat man

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I'm really glad we did this

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I'm glad we're connecting now and

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Thank you for all you're doing, my brother,

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man.

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You're in it to win it,

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and it's very true.

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You speak your truth,

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but it's super authentic,

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and I love hanging out with

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those kind of people.

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Thanks, Josh.

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Thanks for making my afternoon amazing.

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Thank you, brother.

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Thank you for having me.

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I can't wait to see where this goes,

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and I'm here for whatever you need.

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Thank you, brother.

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Sounds good.

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All right, guys.

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That was amazing.

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That's a wrap.

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Until next time, stay well.

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Peace.