#81: Lost in the Cycle of Pain? These 6 Simple Shifts Can Transform Your Life With Britt Brandon
Lost in the Cycle of Pain? These 6 Simple Shifts Can Transform Your Life
What if true healing doesn’t come from a prescription—but from within?
In this powerful episode of Beyond The Pills, we sit down with wellness expert, bestselling author, and survivor Britt Brandon, who shares her remarkable journey from homelessness and addiction to global impact and thriving recovery. With over 22 years in the wellness industry, 25 published books, and more than 10,000 women transformed through her work, Britt has a story—and a strategy—you won’t want to miss.
Her latest book, She Rises & Thrives: Loving Life In Recovery!, doesn’t just inspire—it empowers. Drawing from personal experience and professional expertise, Britt introduces us to her six science-backed pillars of wellness: food, fitness, fun, fellowship, faith, and sleep. These aren’t just lifestyle tips—they’re lifelines for those navigating recovery from addiction, trauma, grief, and chronic stress.
In this episode, we uncover:
- The biggest myth about recovery and why the conventional model is broken
- The most transformative shift Britt uses with clients that changes everything
- How natural healing can create long-lasting emotional, physical, and spiritual breakthroughs
- The intersection of faith and fitness in her journey from rock bottom to radiant purpose
Whether you're in recovery, supporting someone who is, or seeking a healthier, more aligned life—this conversation is your invitation to rise and thrive.
👉 Learn more at: www.SheRisesAndThrives.com
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Transcript
Hello, hello.
Speaker:Welcome to this episode of
Speaker:Beyond the Pills.
Speaker:Today,
Speaker:I am thrilled to welcome Britt Brandon.
Speaker:She has over twenty two
Speaker:years of experience in the
Speaker:wellness industry,
Speaker:has helped more than ten
Speaker:thousand women transform
Speaker:their health through her coaching,
Speaker:fitness and nutrition
Speaker:expertise and the wisdom
Speaker:and founding of twenty five
Speaker:published books.
Speaker:But in her journey isn't just professional,
Speaker:it's very personal,
Speaker:as we've talked about a lot
Speaker:on these episodes.
Speaker:So from being homeless with
Speaker:three children to becoming
Speaker:a beacon of hope for women worldwide,
Speaker:we get to hear about that story today.
Speaker:And Britt has risen through addiction,
Speaker:trauma, abuse,
Speaker:To reclaim her life and purpose,
Speaker:her latest book, She Rises and Thrives,
Speaker:Loving Life in Recovery,
Speaker:is both a guide and a movement,
Speaker:one that focuses and uses food, fitness,
Speaker:fun, fellowship, and faith,
Speaker:and sleep as powerful
Speaker:pillars for healing.
Speaker:Britt is a walking testimony
Speaker:that recovery and
Speaker:transformation are not only possible,
Speaker:they're within reach.
Speaker:Let's dive into that story
Speaker:and discover how we can rise and thrive.
Speaker:Welcome to the show, Britt.
Speaker:Thank you so much.
Speaker:I'm so psyched to be here.
Speaker:Thank you.
Speaker:Man,
Speaker:I love reading the bios because it
Speaker:just gets me so energized
Speaker:with people's stories of
Speaker:transformation because
Speaker:that's what we talk a lot
Speaker:about on this podcast is transformation,
Speaker:healing, moving through it.
Speaker:And I have...
Speaker:I have this belief,
Speaker:and I'm pretty sure you do too,
Speaker:because it's in your story,
Speaker:but one hundred percent of
Speaker:people that help other
Speaker:people in wellness and
Speaker:healing have had a personal story.
Speaker:It's part of their journey,
Speaker:the hero's journey,
Speaker:the shamanic journey of
Speaker:moving through our own
Speaker:deaths in our world and
Speaker:moving into this new space.
Speaker:Let's talk about your journey.
Speaker:Let's talk about that story
Speaker:and those turning points
Speaker:where everything just started to shift,
Speaker:because I think those
Speaker:shifts are what's really important.
Speaker:So let's just dive in.
Speaker:OK, OK.
Speaker:Let's let's talk a little
Speaker:bit about who you are and
Speaker:where you got here.
Speaker:okay okay so um and I love I
Speaker:love the highlighting of so
Speaker:first of all like even
Speaker:hearing the bio which I'm
Speaker:sure a ton of your guests
Speaker:have probably even
Speaker:reflected to you is pretty
Speaker:wild right and it's it's
Speaker:like because you don't
Speaker:realize what you're going
Speaker:through when you're going
Speaker:through it you just know
Speaker:that it's pretty it's
Speaker:pretty yucky and you're
Speaker:trying to figure it out and
Speaker:you're trying to do your best but
Speaker:It's such a process to try
Speaker:to get from point A to point B,
Speaker:especially when you don't
Speaker:realize what point A is or
Speaker:where you're at and where you're going.
Speaker:It's such a cool journey,
Speaker:this life experience.
Speaker:I think, too,
Speaker:being able to share what we
Speaker:have experienced
Speaker:Helping other people either
Speaker:easily more easily navigate
Speaker:the same challenge or just
Speaker:be able to apply some kind
Speaker:of same principles that we
Speaker:use successfully in our own
Speaker:journey to be able to help
Speaker:them through theirs.
Speaker:It's like it's it saves
Speaker:people from trying to reinvent the wheel,
Speaker:but it also instills hope.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And that's the whole thing of.
Speaker:you know, yeah, the healing is.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:It's so,
Speaker:it's so interesting that you say
Speaker:that because it comes up so
Speaker:much and it's such this big,
Speaker:beautiful truth because, you know,
Speaker:we can throw the
Speaker:neuroscience in there too.
Speaker:It's like we learn through
Speaker:story and through community.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And so when, when,
Speaker:and I love reading these
Speaker:bios because it's,
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:I'm glad you went there first because
Speaker:when people hear their own
Speaker:story outside of themselves,
Speaker:it becomes like, for me, it's like, oh,
Speaker:wow.
Speaker:Like, oh, yeah, I did do that stuff.
Speaker:And that's part of my story
Speaker:and my reality.
Speaker:So I'm glad that you enjoyed that,
Speaker:but that it's part of this
Speaker:journey that we're on.
Speaker:So let's talk about your journey.
Speaker:I'm curious on this.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So it's funny because,
Speaker:so it started and I won't, you know,
Speaker:I won't take you through
Speaker:like every single year,
Speaker:but it started when I was
Speaker:little and I didn't realize it,
Speaker:but I just, I grew up in a house where,
Speaker:you know, you,
Speaker:you think your normal is your normal.
Speaker:And so I grew up in a house
Speaker:with non-fighting parents who, I mean,
Speaker:we had the picture perfect life of like,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:we lived in a mansion on the
Speaker:water in Florida with a
Speaker:boat and a plane and
Speaker:And everything was great.
Speaker:It was me, my brother.
Speaker:We had two professional
Speaker:parents who never fought.
Speaker:It was amazing.
Speaker:And then when I was ten,
Speaker:they told me that they were
Speaker:getting a divorce and it
Speaker:totally rocked my world.
Speaker:And we went to two different
Speaker:houses within like a matter of, you know,
Speaker:probably a month.
Speaker:And I barely ever saw my dad
Speaker:again for a long, long time.
Speaker:And so it was this whole
Speaker:shakeup on that end.
Speaker:But then my mom's way of
Speaker:dealing with that was her.
Speaker:She spun out of control in
Speaker:addiction and she was she
Speaker:was still a professional
Speaker:and she was still a functioning addict.
Speaker:But behind closed doors,
Speaker:my normal was a very.
Speaker:funky.
Speaker:My mom slept a lot.
Speaker:I didn't know what was going on.
Speaker:I just knew that this was not good,
Speaker:but it was kind of like,
Speaker:I didn't know what was going on,
Speaker:where my dad was or what was happening.
Speaker:And so that was that piece.
Speaker:But then as I grew older and
Speaker:started dating, so I was
Speaker:A few years,
Speaker:I had either my mom or my
Speaker:boyfriend in rehab and I was.
Speaker:And so it was like, it was,
Speaker:my world was crazy, but it was my normal.
Speaker:And so that went on for a
Speaker:little bit and I held it
Speaker:together and kind of figured like, well,
Speaker:it's not my problem and it
Speaker:doesn't really affect me.
Speaker:I'm just going to care for
Speaker:both of them as much as I can.
Speaker:And then my boyfriend lost
Speaker:his battle with addiction
Speaker:and passed away.
Speaker:And my mom kind of, you know,
Speaker:she battled with it for a really,
Speaker:really long time.
Speaker:And then my way of dealing
Speaker:with it was getting out of
Speaker:my house and getting
Speaker:married to the next person, you know,
Speaker:I was with who, again,
Speaker:cue the addiction and alcoholism.
Speaker:And so I started, you know,
Speaker:I was young and married and
Speaker:started a family.
Speaker:And so I was twenty one when
Speaker:I had my first daughter.
Speaker:And there were signs that
Speaker:red flags that things might be abusive.
Speaker:There was always verbal
Speaker:abuse and emotional stuff.
Speaker:But physical abuse started
Speaker:when I was pregnant with my first.
Speaker:And then, you know,
Speaker:these long honeymoon
Speaker:periods in between that
Speaker:just got shorter and
Speaker:shorter and shorter over time.
Speaker:And
Speaker:And so my way of handling
Speaker:things was to turn to
Speaker:alcohol for numbing and it
Speaker:worked until it didn't is
Speaker:what I like to say.
Speaker:So that was kind of what brought me,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:into my world of addiction was
Speaker:that it had always been normal.
Speaker:But, and then,
Speaker:and then I never wanted to
Speaker:be that for my kids,
Speaker:but I literally became like
Speaker:that proverbial tree that
Speaker:you don't want to hit when you're skiing,
Speaker:like you focus on the tree,
Speaker:focus on the tree,
Speaker:focus on the tree and you hit the tree.
Speaker:And so it was, it was pretty, um,
Speaker:it was just this whirlwind of events that,
Speaker:um, kind of culminated in a really scary,
Speaker:abusive household that was
Speaker:just fueled with, you know,
Speaker:what became my alcoholism
Speaker:as a way of coping.
Speaker:And then when it got too scary to stay,
Speaker:I left with my three kids
Speaker:in tow and we were, I mean,
Speaker:we had nowhere to live and it was,
Speaker:it was crazy.
Speaker:And then everything kind of came to a, um,
Speaker:just like you said, you know,
Speaker:those turning points where
Speaker:I was trying to co-parent
Speaker:with somebody who was
Speaker:completely out of control.
Speaker:and trying to manage what I thought.
Speaker:I was still writing books.
Speaker:I was still coaching clients.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I was definitely a functioning alcoholic,
Speaker:but I was a shell of myself
Speaker:and just hurting beyond
Speaker:anything I had ever even
Speaker:imagined physically
Speaker:possible or mentally possible.
Speaker:One day I hit my knees and
Speaker:was just in my kitchen
Speaker:after this huge fight with my ex-husband.
Speaker:Our divorce ramped
Speaker:everything up instead of
Speaker:calming things down.
Speaker:he would pick up the kids when it was,
Speaker:you know, on my days.
Speaker:So I would be either at their school,
Speaker:like looking like a fool, picky,
Speaker:trying to pick up my kids
Speaker:who had already been picked up or, um,
Speaker:going to pick up my
Speaker:daughter from a friend's
Speaker:house was this day.
Speaker:That was my turning point.
Speaker:And I called to say that I
Speaker:was on my way and they were like, Oh,
Speaker:her dad already picked her up.
Speaker:And so I called him and was like,
Speaker:what are you doing?
Speaker:And he was like, Nope,
Speaker:you think you're calling the shots.
Speaker:You're not calling the shots, you know,
Speaker:you and
Speaker:And your lawyer, you know,
Speaker:can go stuff it and not in those words,
Speaker:but in some more colorful terms.
Speaker:And I just,
Speaker:I felt so defeated and there
Speaker:was like no way that this
Speaker:was going to end up in some
Speaker:positive outcome.
Speaker:And I went home and there
Speaker:was this massive bottle of
Speaker:wine on my counter.
Speaker:And that was normally what I
Speaker:did was it was just like dive into it,
Speaker:just numb things out,
Speaker:fall asleep and worry about it whenever.
Speaker:And I,
Speaker:it was like exhausting to even think
Speaker:about drinking.
Speaker:like that it was just this
Speaker:self-perpetuating cycle of horrible,
Speaker:you know, experiences.
Speaker:And so I just hit my knees and was like,
Speaker:I can't do this anymore.
Speaker:This is a disaster.
Speaker:And in that moment, and I know everybody,
Speaker:it's so cliche,
Speaker:but it literally felt like
Speaker:I had the weight of the
Speaker:world lifted off of my
Speaker:shoulders and things got
Speaker:way worse before they got better.
Speaker:I mean, it was, it was really,
Speaker:really crazy, but my, you know,
Speaker:my alcoholism peaked and
Speaker:I was put into a situation
Speaker:where thank goodness my
Speaker:kids weren't with me.
Speaker:And it was the middle of the
Speaker:day and I didn't think I
Speaker:would be driving.
Speaker:So of course I was drinking
Speaker:because that was my go-to.
Speaker:And I ended up having to
Speaker:leave to put an application
Speaker:for a new home in with a
Speaker:realtor and got a DUI.
Speaker:And, and it was just right there.
Speaker:It was like,
Speaker:I was told because I had full
Speaker:custody of my kids.
Speaker:Like if you don't, you know,
Speaker:you you're done.
Speaker:Like if you are,
Speaker:to continue on this path
Speaker:you'll lose your kids and
Speaker:so it was it was great and
Speaker:then I was a single parent
Speaker:I was trying to navigate
Speaker:things my ex-husband broke
Speaker:into our house like
Speaker:christmas eve in the middle
Speaker:of the night almost killed
Speaker:one of our house guests so
Speaker:he went to jail it was
Speaker:everything fell apart and
Speaker:that was what we needed
Speaker:that was exactly what we
Speaker:needed was everything broke
Speaker:apart and we were we have
Speaker:been able to piece by piece
Speaker:brick by brick
Speaker:build this incredible life that is healthy,
Speaker:peaceful.
Speaker:People walk into my home and they're like,
Speaker:oh my gosh, this is the most peaceful,
Speaker:peaceful place.
Speaker:And I'm like,
Speaker:that is exactly what we are
Speaker:trying to build here.
Speaker:My kids are thirteen,
Speaker:sixteen and eighteen and
Speaker:they're best friends.
Speaker:Like we are such a team and such a healthy,
Speaker:thriving little family.
Speaker:And I don't think any of it
Speaker:would have been possible if
Speaker:we hadn't had everything
Speaker:just kind of break apart in
Speaker:such spectacular fashion.
Speaker:Well,
Speaker:it is that sort of hero's journey though,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:It's hitting that dark night of the soul,
Speaker:like that pivotal moment
Speaker:where everything seems like
Speaker:it's not going anywhere,
Speaker:but it's so intense, right?
Speaker:I think people that have
Speaker:gone through these journeys
Speaker:have got to that point
Speaker:where they knew it's like,
Speaker:It's either micro moments
Speaker:that get you there or it's
Speaker:this big pivotal moments like, all right,
Speaker:I'm sitting there on my knees,
Speaker:I'm staring at this bottle of wine.
Speaker:And first of all, thank you for sharing.
Speaker:This is deep stuff and really,
Speaker:really interesting and good
Speaker:things because
Speaker:you're on the other side of it, right?
Speaker:You're on the other side of it.
Speaker:So I want to talk through that,
Speaker:that turning point.
Speaker:Cause I think a lot of this
Speaker:resonates with a lot of us
Speaker:like numbing with, you know,
Speaker:things that are not healthy for us,
Speaker:like turning toward, cause it's, it's,
Speaker:natural human tendencies to
Speaker:want to numb the pain right
Speaker:we don't like pain so we
Speaker:repel against it and we
Speaker:cling towards the things
Speaker:that we like and the
Speaker:dopamine hits and there's
Speaker:something in between and
Speaker:yes I think we do need to
Speaker:experience everything but
Speaker:that's our natural tendency
Speaker:of survival right we want
Speaker:to go towards the things
Speaker:that we like and we want to
Speaker:go away from things we don't like
Speaker:And there's coping, maladaptive or not,
Speaker:coping mechanisms that we have.
Speaker:And so everybody understands
Speaker:that because we all do it, right?
Speaker:There's some points in our
Speaker:lives where we go there,
Speaker:and some of us have genetic
Speaker:or other extinctions.
Speaker:situations where maladaptive program.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And so you were in there,
Speaker:you were in the thick of it,
Speaker:you were still functioning,
Speaker:but you were in the thick of it.
Speaker:And then that, that piece came or,
Speaker:or what I heard was like,
Speaker:I got to make a choice point now,
Speaker:whether it's my maladaptive
Speaker:stuff or my kids.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Like it was very clear for you.
Speaker:Like, and I,
Speaker:whether we,
Speaker:I think the universe gives us
Speaker:these tools and gifts until
Speaker:we learn our lesson, right?
Speaker:And they get a little bit more.
Speaker:And what I've learned
Speaker:through my own experience
Speaker:and journey of healing and
Speaker:transformation and lessons in life,
Speaker:because I think we're
Speaker:winning or learning and
Speaker:learning is winning.
Speaker:That's from the book Arate.
Speaker:And that piece was like,
Speaker:if you don't learn your lesson,
Speaker:it's like the karmic thing
Speaker:comes and kicks a little harder.
Speaker:gets you a little going like, all right,
Speaker:you didn't learn your lesson.
Speaker:Now it's the DUI.
Speaker:Like you were moving to the
Speaker:point where it's going to keep repeating.
Speaker:I think most people
Speaker:understand this when they think about it,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:And it gets a little like
Speaker:that swift kick in the ass is like,
Speaker:all right, now,
Speaker:now you're forced to make a choice,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:It's like,
Speaker:it's going to keep coming up for
Speaker:you until that choice came.
Speaker:So you made the choice, right?
Speaker:You made the choice to go over here.
Speaker:walk us through,
Speaker:cause you've got these six pillars.
Speaker:Now you've got this personal
Speaker:experience that you're teaching others.
Speaker:So walk us through.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Big choice point.
Speaker:Now it's because I think
Speaker:this is where a lot of
Speaker:people get stuck or lost.
Speaker:Like I'm a big fan of having
Speaker:guides and coaches in your journey, but
Speaker:Right at that moment, where were you?
Speaker:What was going on?
Speaker:And what was the process of
Speaker:moving those bricks?
Speaker:I love how you're saying, for me,
Speaker:it's like the whole thing got blown up.
Speaker:The foundation was there and
Speaker:then you had to piece it up
Speaker:together and build the
Speaker:thing you really wanted to build.
Speaker:And so we're building now,
Speaker:but that choice point where
Speaker:we start the first brick, right?
Speaker:We start that one thing.
Speaker:That's the change point.
Speaker:And I want to talk a little bit about your,
Speaker:your experience with that,
Speaker:because I think that's a
Speaker:really true moment that we
Speaker:all face in our lives.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And,
Speaker:and I love the idea of everything
Speaker:being like wiped clean.
Speaker:Cause that's, I mean,
Speaker:you literally start from scratch and I,
Speaker:and I think it's the best way too,
Speaker:because sometimes we try to
Speaker:fix something or we try to,
Speaker:we try to piece something
Speaker:together and it's almost
Speaker:like trying to piece together like water,
Speaker:you know, like trying to sew water.
Speaker:I mean, it's just, it's broken.
Speaker:It's disastrous.
Speaker:It's, you don't,
Speaker:it's not even workable anymore.
Speaker:So it's like you start from scratch.
Speaker:And so luckily, I mean, even,
Speaker:even in my book, I, I, I,
Speaker:in the acknowledgements,
Speaker:I acknowledge the
Speaker:international sports
Speaker:sciences association for
Speaker:giving me the information
Speaker:and tools that I needed
Speaker:because I had been a health coach.
Speaker:I had been a personal trainer.
Speaker:I had been a fitness nutrition specialist,
Speaker:a group fitness,
Speaker:like all of these things.
Speaker:And it was like,
Speaker:it got to the point where I was like,
Speaker:I don't know what to do.
Speaker:Like, so now I know I need to get sober.
Speaker:And my life doesn't stop.
Speaker:I've got three kids.
Speaker:I have to work.
Speaker:I have to do all of these things.
Speaker:Yeah, the stress doesn't go away, right?
Speaker:No, no.
Speaker:I was not in a position
Speaker:where I could put my life
Speaker:on pause and go to a spa
Speaker:and learn how to recover.
Speaker:That was not my reality.
Speaker:And I was jumping through
Speaker:the most intense hoops I've
Speaker:ever had to jump through with probation.
Speaker:So I was having random drug alcohol tests.
Speaker:I mean, it was crazy.
Speaker:so which and you can't drop
Speaker:the ball because dropping
Speaker:the ball means jail or
Speaker:start over and it was like
Speaker:and this is an expensive
Speaker:endeavor I don't know if
Speaker:anybody you know so anyway
Speaker:it's there were a ton of
Speaker:plates spinning so it was
Speaker:like first of all
Speaker:everything had to quiet
Speaker:like if it wasn't
Speaker:warranting my attention it
Speaker:was out and so I like to
Speaker:say that it was literally
Speaker:just like my dad says we
Speaker:went underground for a year
Speaker:I just took my kids and we were literally
Speaker:Just it was me,
Speaker:those kids and my faith
Speaker:that everything was kind of
Speaker:like working on.
Speaker:And we went through the same
Speaker:schedule every day of work in school,
Speaker:home and then making dinner,
Speaker:going to bed.
Speaker:Like everything just became a routine,
Speaker:which helped me immensely.
Speaker:So that was one thing.
Speaker:And then I started drawing
Speaker:on all of these.
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:habits and directives that I had
Speaker:been sharing with my
Speaker:clients for so many years.
Speaker:And it was starting with nutrition.
Speaker:Like so many things are
Speaker:based in nutrition.
Speaker:And if your nutrition isn't on point,
Speaker:you're depleted,
Speaker:you're dealing with
Speaker:dysfunction and malnutrition.
Speaker:So I started focusing on my
Speaker:eating and drinking water.
Speaker:And it was like that kind of,
Speaker:those kinds of things were
Speaker:like brick one.
Speaker:And then my sleep was huge.
Speaker:I just hadn't slept well in months.
Speaker:you know, forever.
Speaker:So there's a story I share
Speaker:in my book about, we dragged home this,
Speaker:this,
Speaker:this a treadmill that my kids had
Speaker:seen like on the, on the,
Speaker:at the edge of this curb on
Speaker:our way home from our community pool.
Speaker:And they were like,
Speaker:can we bring it home and see if it works?
Speaker:And this
Speaker:item not only turned into
Speaker:like a perfect toy for them,
Speaker:but it was my saving grace
Speaker:because when I couldn't sleep at night,
Speaker:I would get up and just
Speaker:walk on that treadmill.
Speaker:And so between wearing
Speaker:myself out with fitness during the day,
Speaker:so I could sleep at night,
Speaker:it helped me correct my circadian rhythm.
Speaker:I was like getting exercise,
Speaker:but like my body had been
Speaker:so pumped on adrenaline for
Speaker:such a long period of time.
Speaker:that it was just like
Speaker:everything had to be super
Speaker:simple or it was out.
Speaker:And it was just that was how
Speaker:we just did brick by brick.
Speaker:So it was like the fitness, the food,
Speaker:the fun, the fellowship.
Speaker:the sleep and the faith all
Speaker:kind of culminated in
Speaker:everything I needed.
Speaker:Nothing cost anything, you know,
Speaker:everything was free and it
Speaker:was just quality of life
Speaker:things that I had to focus
Speaker:on and it worked and it
Speaker:worked and it was day by day.
Speaker:Not every day was easy.
Speaker:There was a lot of learning,
Speaker:just like you said, you know,
Speaker:we're either winning or
Speaker:we're learning and the
Speaker:learning is winning too,
Speaker:because we learn what works
Speaker:and what doesn't, and we keep what works,
Speaker:ditch what doesn't.
Speaker:And that's,
Speaker:that was how simple and basic
Speaker:everything became.
Speaker:I feel like I've learned.
Speaker:So just like we were talking
Speaker:about before the show,
Speaker:there's so many parallels
Speaker:in your journey to becoming
Speaker:well that you carry over to life.
Speaker:And it's like,
Speaker:what people think about you
Speaker:doesn't matter because it doesn't,
Speaker:you know, I mean,
Speaker:you need to focus on the people,
Speaker:places and things that
Speaker:really bring you joy
Speaker:because life is short.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:you start really just kind of
Speaker:cutting out the fluff and
Speaker:focusing on like,
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:things that pop up as needing
Speaker:your attention, they need your attention.
Speaker:Anything else just doesn't.
Speaker:Well, you.
Speaker:you hit a lot of points that
Speaker:I've been talking about for
Speaker:a long time as well,
Speaker:was the simplicity of it, right?
Speaker:The simplicity of, now,
Speaker:just because it's simple
Speaker:doesn't make it easy.
Speaker:Like I have a whole program
Speaker:called Wellness Made Simple,
Speaker:and it gets back to those
Speaker:basics that you talk about
Speaker:that we push aside because
Speaker:of the simplistic nature of it,
Speaker:because we are complex beings now.
Speaker:And everything is like
Speaker:people are moving towards
Speaker:the first supplement that
Speaker:can give them the this or the that.
Speaker:And it's this for that
Speaker:approach when you did it.
Speaker:Like the first pillar is the
Speaker:pillar that I have in my
Speaker:well-being structure is food.
Speaker:Food is medicine.
Speaker:And I do want to talk about
Speaker:those and how those things are.
Speaker:But I do want to honor you in a way that's
Speaker:for being vulnerable as a
Speaker:wellness coach and
Speaker:understanding like that we
Speaker:are humans too.
Speaker:And we fall from grace and we,
Speaker:we go through maladaptive stuff too.
Speaker:Like,
Speaker:I love hanging out with healers.
Speaker:I love hanging out with
Speaker:wellness people and we all
Speaker:have our ups and downs.
Speaker:It's not like we're the
Speaker:pillars of society.
Speaker:Ninety nine percent of the time.
Speaker:It's like this was real stuff for you.
Speaker:You knew all of it and it
Speaker:was still real and in front
Speaker:of you because of the
Speaker:emotional intensity that it created.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And so we are all perfectly imperfect.
Speaker:you recognized it.
Speaker:And then you went back to your trainings.
Speaker:You went back to the places
Speaker:that you could find grounding for.
Speaker:And I love that you grabbed the, I love,
Speaker:this is something that's
Speaker:coming up for me lately is
Speaker:that embodiment of getting
Speaker:that energy out, right?
Speaker:Like getting on the
Speaker:treadmill and just going
Speaker:because energy has got to move.
Speaker:If it's stagnant, then you can't do it.
Speaker:So these, these,
Speaker:breadcrumbs came to you, right?
Speaker:I love it.
Speaker:On the street,
Speaker:you dragged it in and it
Speaker:became a pillar of your healing.
Speaker:That is really, but that is the,
Speaker:that is the essence of the
Speaker:healing journey.
Speaker:It's like,
Speaker:there is no script that how and
Speaker:the when just falls in once
Speaker:you're in alignment, right?
Speaker:You took that choice point,
Speaker:you threw that out into the universe and
Speaker:And then you went back to the basics.
Speaker:This is like the simplicity of it.
Speaker:You said fun, right?
Speaker:Fun is something that's not
Speaker:in everyone's vocabulary,
Speaker:but it's in every single
Speaker:child's vocabulary, right?
Speaker:And getting back,
Speaker:I've been working on that
Speaker:one lately is like,
Speaker:how can we be more playful
Speaker:and be more of that inner
Speaker:child where we're just
Speaker:joyful about the simple things?
Speaker:and your routine, right?
Speaker:I love the fact that you
Speaker:went back to simple and you
Speaker:said whatever it and stayed
Speaker:present in the moment, right?
Speaker:If this is in front of me,
Speaker:I'm going to pay attention to it.
Speaker:That stuff's not there.
Speaker:And
Speaker:Easy to say, hard thing for me to do is,
Speaker:you know, what people say doesn't matter,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:It doesn't matter in your world.
Speaker:It matters to them, great,
Speaker:but it doesn't affect you.
Speaker:So you have this boundary you are setting.
Speaker:You can help do it.
Speaker:And you stayed the course
Speaker:with consistency.
Speaker:That is a big piece that I
Speaker:think a lot of people don't
Speaker:put the patience into the
Speaker:consistency of things before they,
Speaker:this isn't working, wash it out, right?
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:It's that balancing though.
Speaker:It's not a balance.
Speaker:It's a balancing of try, see if it works,
Speaker:scrap it if it doesn't, learn from it.
Speaker:And staying the course when things,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:things that are good for you and
Speaker:still work through it.
Speaker:It's like with food,
Speaker:you can choose the foods you eat,
Speaker:but it's either medicine or poison.
Speaker:And we know the difference, right?
Speaker:It's either helping or hindering.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:There's no...
Speaker:There's, and you know,
Speaker:our bodies talk to us.
Speaker:And that's the thing is like in this time,
Speaker:I was so blessed with the
Speaker:fact that I had been numb
Speaker:for so long that everything
Speaker:was on like heightened,
Speaker:everything was loud.
Speaker:So it was like,
Speaker:if my body didn't like something,
Speaker:it was like reject.
Speaker:Like, I mean, I felt things,
Speaker:I would like touch coffee
Speaker:and recoil and be like, oh my gosh,
Speaker:that is literally the
Speaker:thought of it is making me sick.
Speaker:And so I started following
Speaker:these cues and clues that
Speaker:my body was giving me about
Speaker:food or about fitness that I was doing.
Speaker:Like I tried to do HIIT at
Speaker:one time and it was too intense.
Speaker:It like literally stressed
Speaker:my systems too much.
Speaker:And I felt like I had the flu.
Speaker:And so it was like, okay, nope,
Speaker:we're going back to just walking.
Speaker:And so I did that for like, I mean,
Speaker:it was like two years and I,
Speaker:it wasn't until recently
Speaker:that I realized that I
Speaker:learned from actually from a client who,
Speaker:um,
Speaker:she's a, she's a PTSD counselor,
Speaker:but she was like, Oh my gosh, that was,
Speaker:it was, you know,
Speaker:this bilateral stimulation
Speaker:of your walking was helping you heal,
Speaker:helping your brain heal.
Speaker:And it's like, Oh my gosh,
Speaker:this is so like your body
Speaker:wants to be well,
Speaker:and your body wants to thrive.
Speaker:And so it's like,
Speaker:if we stop trying to mute
Speaker:things out and just push
Speaker:things on our body, like,
Speaker:just like you said,
Speaker:like the new and latest
Speaker:supplement or this or that,
Speaker:and it's like,
Speaker:just feed your body
Speaker:nutritious foods and start
Speaker:looking at like the time
Speaker:and how your body responds
Speaker:to whether it's like, you know,
Speaker:when was the last time you
Speaker:got outside and without AirPods and,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:walked around and were just like
Speaker:mindful about, you know,
Speaker:in the moment and
Speaker:practicing like just like
Speaker:things that stress you out
Speaker:or that you need to try to
Speaker:minimize or the fun that
Speaker:you need to maximize.
Speaker:Like I'll mention fun to
Speaker:clients and they're like,
Speaker:I don't know what I like to do.
Speaker:And it's like, there it is.
Speaker:Like that's what we need to focus on.
Speaker:You know, like join a kickball team.
Speaker:I have a client who started
Speaker:ballet and she loves ballet.
Speaker:Like she's, you know, fifty five.
Speaker:And she's like,
Speaker:my ballet class is amazing.
Speaker:And it makes me feel strong.
Speaker:Like there are so many
Speaker:beautiful things that we
Speaker:get from like we're not little anymore.
Speaker:And right.
Speaker:Like, I mean,
Speaker:I watch my son who's thirteen
Speaker:have endless energy and his
Speaker:forms of fun are incredible.
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:very like high paced and high energy.
Speaker:But my forms of fun are very different,
Speaker:but they bring me so much
Speaker:joy and I look forward to
Speaker:them and they enrich my days.
Speaker:And it's like, you know,
Speaker:let's let's do more of that.
Speaker:Like paddle boarding makes
Speaker:me feel like I am
Speaker:you know, just like talk about alignment.
Speaker:It's like peace and my brain
Speaker:is like calm and open and free,
Speaker:but I'm also like inhaling
Speaker:phytotens because our trees
Speaker:are just emitting these
Speaker:amazing phytochemicals here
Speaker:in North Carolina that are amazing.
Speaker:But the things like this
Speaker:that are free and that we have access to,
Speaker:we need to be taking
Speaker:advantage of those to heal
Speaker:our bodies and our minds.
Speaker:And yeah.
Speaker:It's powerful.
Speaker:And you're bringing up stuff
Speaker:as I'm thinking it.
Speaker:It's so fun.
Speaker:It's like getting out in nature.
Speaker:yes free right yeah you got
Speaker:to buy a paddleboard but
Speaker:you can go on facebook and
Speaker:find one pretty cheap these
Speaker:days or forget the
Speaker:paddleboard and go swim I
Speaker:mean it's right yeah it's
Speaker:like the no excuse piece is
Speaker:I'm busy you know I love
Speaker:that you're like you're
Speaker:bringing fun into it but
Speaker:you're asking people
Speaker:directly like hey what are
Speaker:you doing for fun and then
Speaker:they're checking themselves and it's like
Speaker:you know it's it's get those
Speaker:hobbies move that stuff
Speaker:forward and for me it's all
Speaker:it it I've learned this
Speaker:over my last year too is
Speaker:like more more in nature
Speaker:more in nature more nature
Speaker:and if in what you said was
Speaker:the way I way I say it too
Speaker:is like the body knows like
Speaker:it's not like the mind
Speaker:thinks but the body knows
Speaker:the heart knows that when
Speaker:you're outside and you're
Speaker:grounded with your feet
Speaker:bare feet on the ground in nature.
Speaker:And you don't, I'm in Charlotte here.
Speaker:You're in Raleigh.
Speaker:Like we don't have to go to
Speaker:the mountains to be in nature.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:There's parks everywhere.
Speaker:And you can sit in nature
Speaker:without ear pods and just be like,
Speaker:I've been doing this a lot.
Speaker:I don't know if it is
Speaker:something that you've been thinking about,
Speaker:but like,
Speaker:The art of non-doing is
Speaker:something that's coming up for me.
Speaker:It's like,
Speaker:when was the last time you just
Speaker:sat in nature without an agenda,
Speaker:without checking anything,
Speaker:without your mind going nuts?
Speaker:Because it's going to go,
Speaker:the monkey brain will go,
Speaker:but we know that we can
Speaker:check it back and go back into nature.
Speaker:You can just be present and
Speaker:watch nature or be in
Speaker:nature or do whatever feels
Speaker:right for you.
Speaker:These are low cost, no cost,
Speaker:highly impactful and valuable things.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Lifestyle medicine is just a choice.
Speaker:Oh, yeah.
Speaker:And this is why I put a lot of focus.
Speaker:One of my mentors has taught
Speaker:me this as well.
Speaker:It is over like probably the last five,
Speaker:six years.
Speaker:I've gone through this
Speaker:process of going back to simple medicine.
Speaker:Like I've learned all the
Speaker:crazy functional medicine
Speaker:protocol to do blank, blank and blank.
Speaker:Yeah, that's great.
Speaker:But eighty percent of the
Speaker:time we can do it with
Speaker:lifestyle and simplicity.
Speaker:We can reverse diabetes in
Speaker:ten weeks with simplistic
Speaker:food choices and mindset shifts.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:Stress is the big one.
Speaker:You talked about it a lot.
Speaker:It's been the number one
Speaker:thing that's affected me in
Speaker:my life and all of the
Speaker:trials and challenges I've
Speaker:had that I've learned
Speaker:through that are my gifts.
Speaker:but they're my shadow too
Speaker:because that high intense,
Speaker:this is why that hit didn't
Speaker:work for you because your
Speaker:stress response was so high.
Speaker:You can't go into intensity
Speaker:workouts thinking it's
Speaker:healthy when your stress
Speaker:response system's already
Speaker:triggered and your hairline is so finite,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:And I'm speaking from my own
Speaker:experience here because that's the thing.
Speaker:It's like, so that's why I found...
Speaker:on meditation is the best
Speaker:grounding thing for me.
Speaker:And it's my non-negotiable.
Speaker:And there's too much science
Speaker:to prove why it's so good
Speaker:for us now in immune system
Speaker:and all these other things.
Speaker:That's why I follow Joe
Speaker:Dispenza's work and I'm a disciple.
Speaker:Oh, such a genius.
Speaker:Oh my goodness.
Speaker:Because he's saying it with
Speaker:the science piece that our, you know,
Speaker:left brains need to learn about.
Speaker:But what you said is all the
Speaker:simple stuff that our body
Speaker:has already known was known forever,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:We talk through story,
Speaker:sitting around a fire, being in nature,
Speaker:eating, eating food from, from the farm,
Speaker:not the factory, right?
Speaker:Yep, exactly.
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:And these are, but so how do,
Speaker:how do you teach people in your clients?
Speaker:And let's talk a little bit
Speaker:about your book next, but like,
Speaker:how do you,
Speaker:how do you get people to
Speaker:understand and move through this?
Speaker:I know we need accountability.
Speaker:Eighty percent of people
Speaker:follow through with accountability.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:And twenty percent of people
Speaker:follow through without accountability.
Speaker:So we got to flip it to the
Speaker:eighty percent so we can
Speaker:get an outcome here because
Speaker:we got problems.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:We're stressed out.
Speaker:We are foggy brain.
Speaker:We have our attention is
Speaker:everywhere and we're
Speaker:scattered and we have a, you know,
Speaker:weight obesity problem.
Speaker:We have all these things
Speaker:we're trying to handle and
Speaker:change in this world.
Speaker:So what's your formula for
Speaker:success as you're bringing
Speaker:people through this process?
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:So to your point, right?
Speaker:So we start with the accountability.
Speaker:The fellowship piece is one
Speaker:of my favorite pieces because- Ooh,
Speaker:talk about this.
Speaker:I'm a spiritual guy.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So listen.
Speaker:So we are obviously like,
Speaker:we are social beings, right?
Speaker:And we love feeling seen and
Speaker:heard and valued.
Speaker:And when we can start
Speaker:building communities around ourselves and
Speaker:And we kind of,
Speaker:in my experience in recovery,
Speaker:back to everything kind of
Speaker:just being decimated and
Speaker:having to bring things back.
Speaker:And I mean,
Speaker:I went so far as to move my
Speaker:kids out of the state that
Speaker:we were in so that we could
Speaker:get a fresh start.
Speaker:They don't even agree on
Speaker:what's for dinner and
Speaker:everybody wanted to move.
Speaker:So it was awesome and
Speaker:beautiful and wonderful.
Speaker:But I came to my new home
Speaker:almost five years ago.
Speaker:and started making true
Speaker:friends for the first time
Speaker:that I was comfortable
Speaker:being around because I was being myself.
Speaker:And I, I was,
Speaker:I wanted people to see the
Speaker:real me because if I'm not
Speaker:everybody's cup of tea and
Speaker:that's totally fine.
Speaker:But I want to,
Speaker:the people who I want to be
Speaker:around are the people who
Speaker:want to be around me
Speaker:because of me being me,
Speaker:not for me being somebody
Speaker:else or who I think they want me to be.
Speaker:So that was, I mean, talk about a self,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:a self-perpetuating cycle of
Speaker:improvement just in that piece.
Speaker:It was like, holy cow, they like me,
Speaker:you know, for me being me,
Speaker:not me being somebody else.
Speaker:So that was really cool to
Speaker:feel accepted for the first time.
Speaker:And then
Speaker:I started seeking out people
Speaker:who had my same interests.
Speaker:And that was awesome because it was like,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I have friends who I can talk
Speaker:about faith with who leave
Speaker:me sweet messages under my doormat to say,
Speaker:like, you're awesome and I love you.
Speaker:And, you know, God loves, like,
Speaker:we share common things.
Speaker:And so I have different
Speaker:groups that are around me
Speaker:that I've kind of just gravitated towards,
Speaker:but we share similar interests.
Speaker:and we support one another.
Speaker:And that's where if you can find groups,
Speaker:and a lot of us have
Speaker:burdens that we don't want
Speaker:to share because we don't
Speaker:want to burden other people.
Speaker:And back to your thing about
Speaker:how like we learn by sharing stories,
Speaker:we shouldn't have to reinvent the wheel.
Speaker:When we sit in a group and
Speaker:share or sit in a group and don't share,
Speaker:but listen to other people,
Speaker:we hear strategies that
Speaker:have worked for other people or have not.
Speaker:So it's kind of like,
Speaker:When in caveman time, it was like,
Speaker:don't go over there because
Speaker:there's saber-toothed
Speaker:tigers do go over here
Speaker:because then you'll get away from them.
Speaker:It's the same thing.
Speaker:We've learned strategies from each other.
Speaker:Now we just have to pay
Speaker:attention and communicate.
Speaker:And so we have,
Speaker:but we have to be
Speaker:vulnerable in order to do that.
Speaker:And so it's a process.
Speaker:But when you start focusing
Speaker:on fellowship and making
Speaker:friendships and even just
Speaker:connecting in your community,
Speaker:it opens up your world to, I mean,
Speaker:not only accountability,
Speaker:but you want to be well.
Speaker:Like you want to start
Speaker:working in the right
Speaker:direction so that you can
Speaker:be your best and be like
Speaker:the people who you look up
Speaker:to and that you want to be more like.
Speaker:Yeah, I just call it find your tribe,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:Oh my gosh,
Speaker:I call them my tribe all the time.
Speaker:I have plenty of tribes.
Speaker:I'm in my front row dad's group.
Speaker:They're heart-centered men
Speaker:looking to be good dads and businessmen,
Speaker:family men with businesses,
Speaker:not businessmen with family.
Speaker:They're all growth-centered.
Speaker:I've just surrounded myself
Speaker:with people like me.
Speaker:You touched on being you,
Speaker:but the word authenticity
Speaker:is coming up a lot right now.
Speaker:Not from a buzzword,
Speaker:but because of the wholeness you are.
Speaker:My whole last year has been
Speaker:about finding me.
Speaker:And then building me.
Speaker:And if I can't be in my true
Speaker:authentic self,
Speaker:then I'm not who I'm supposed to be.
Speaker:And so it starts there, right?
Speaker:It starts with that pillar.
Speaker:And I love that you're
Speaker:bringing it up in your own
Speaker:way because to me,
Speaker:this has been a great conversation,
Speaker:but to me,
Speaker:that's what was the turning
Speaker:point in my evolution because
Speaker:you get to do what you are here to do,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:If you're in your full
Speaker:authentic self and you're
Speaker:hanging out with people that get you,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:Being seen, heard, understood is like,
Speaker:these aren't old things,
Speaker:but they're so true and so real.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And so the relationships you
Speaker:have and what you're building around this
Speaker:that fellowship right that
Speaker:tribal philosophy because
Speaker:we don't live in tribes
Speaker:anymore so we have to find
Speaker:our own tribes we don't we
Speaker:we're we're migrant people
Speaker:we can move and go wherever
Speaker:we want in the world and
Speaker:people are doing that
Speaker:they're nomads they're
Speaker:they're working here and
Speaker:there so finding that tight
Speaker:group of people that get
Speaker:you and you get them it's
Speaker:that support system and
Speaker:This is why I think group
Speaker:based programming is so important and why,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:Cleveland Clinic put studies
Speaker:upon it to say people learn
Speaker:from their peers more than
Speaker:they learn from the expert.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:Because we're all in it, you know,
Speaker:like we're in this this
Speaker:human race and it's like.
Speaker:I have learned so much from
Speaker:my ladies that I, you know,
Speaker:I call them my second family there.
Speaker:I see them every Thursday night.
Speaker:Like I just got a message before I,
Speaker:before I hopped on this in this,
Speaker:on this call with you.
Speaker:And it's like, you know, you just,
Speaker:You and it's like people
Speaker:don't even realize with
Speaker:like when you make it and I
Speaker:put this in my book because it's so to me,
Speaker:it's so cool that our
Speaker:bodies are designed this
Speaker:way back to like our bodies
Speaker:knowing best when we
Speaker:connect with people and you
Speaker:get that that dopamine hit
Speaker:and you it's like that, you know, you.
Speaker:it feels good to feel seen
Speaker:or to know that somebody
Speaker:else cares about you.
Speaker:And it's like, even in the grocery store,
Speaker:you can have like a funny
Speaker:conversation with the
Speaker:cashier and leave with a
Speaker:little bit of a pep in your
Speaker:step because it's like,
Speaker:you just made that brief
Speaker:connection with somebody
Speaker:you don't even know who
Speaker:you'll never see again,
Speaker:but we're social beings and
Speaker:we love that connection.
Speaker:And so it's like,
Speaker:you know, that is, to me,
Speaker:such a strong pillar, because it's like,
Speaker:you want people who want the best for you,
Speaker:but who you also want to be the best for.
Speaker:So it's like this, you know,
Speaker:it's just a reciprocal thing.
Speaker:So that's one of the big ones.
Speaker:And then the other ones kind
Speaker:of just back to simplicity.
Speaker:I mean, whether it's food,
Speaker:I talk about there's, you know,
Speaker:everybody wants to talk about a diet.
Speaker:And I joke that there's like,
Speaker:there's low carb, no carb, low fat,
Speaker:high fat, you know,
Speaker:Like which one is best for you?
Speaker:And it's like, scratch it.
Speaker:Let's just start with eating whole foods.
Speaker:Like if it has a package or
Speaker:a list of ingredients that
Speaker:you can't pronounce, scratch it.
Speaker:Like it's not your,
Speaker:we want your body to like,
Speaker:and I have like this
Speaker:YouTube video that's so funny,
Speaker:but it's like,
Speaker:Your body gets so excited
Speaker:when you eat something like
Speaker:an apple because everything
Speaker:from the fiber to the
Speaker:vitamins to the carbohydrates,
Speaker:like your body gets so
Speaker:psyched because you're digesting it.
Speaker:And every part of the apple
Speaker:has a purpose and your body
Speaker:knows what those things can be used for.
Speaker:And so it optimizes everything with it.
Speaker:a Twinkie is like, your body is like,
Speaker:what is this?
Speaker:And you know, like it's, so it's,
Speaker:you're either providing
Speaker:sustenance or just distracting.
Speaker:And so it's, you know,
Speaker:there's all of these different things,
Speaker:but just,
Speaker:if you want to keep things
Speaker:simple so that you don't
Speaker:have to think too much
Speaker:about what you're eating,
Speaker:just make it so that it's whole foods.
Speaker:Just, it's super simple, you know,
Speaker:and just try to-
Speaker:speaking my my beautiful
Speaker:language that I right
Speaker:because it's so true it's
Speaker:time I just we call it
Speaker:clean eating and like I
Speaker:have a clean I have a clean
Speaker:fourteen which is like the
Speaker:basics of getting getting
Speaker:reset was just like clean
Speaker:it all up in fourteen days
Speaker:and see how you feel like
Speaker:you're right like the power
Speaker:we talk a lot about
Speaker:different kinds of plant
Speaker:medicines not just psychedelics but like
Speaker:The apple came from the earth,
Speaker:came from the plant,
Speaker:and it's designed to
Speaker:nourish you and your body
Speaker:knows exactly what to do with it.
Speaker:And what's even better is
Speaker:the stuff it can't use is
Speaker:really good for the
Speaker:microbiome of your gut.
Speaker:Yes, yes.
Speaker:So it's like what you don't use,
Speaker:the other guys use,
Speaker:and it's this beautiful
Speaker:symbiotic relationship.
Speaker:Right,
Speaker:the fiber scrubs your colon on the
Speaker:way out to make sure,
Speaker:like it's like what a
Speaker:beautiful design in an apple, you know?
Speaker:All the fructose saccharides
Speaker:and all the things that are
Speaker:going are feeding the good critters.
Speaker:And guess what?
Speaker:It's starving out the bad critters.
Speaker:It's like all,
Speaker:it's all in this beautiful
Speaker:universal intelligence that
Speaker:I have no control over.
Speaker:And I don't need control over,
Speaker:but we should be aware of it.
Speaker:That says, yeah,
Speaker:it's easy to say food is medicine.
Speaker:And then you could dive down
Speaker:the rabbit hole of the science.
Speaker:But if the simplicity is
Speaker:what you just said,
Speaker:which I love how you
Speaker:package that up is like
Speaker:your body just knows what to do with it.
Speaker:It's beautiful.
Speaker:It can take all the parts
Speaker:and it can use it for its
Speaker:own well and in good ratios.
Speaker:And guess what?
Speaker:When you do that.
Speaker:like all these other
Speaker:downstream problems go away
Speaker:or at least enough to where
Speaker:you realize it and you can
Speaker:continue down the path so I
Speaker:love that we're staying
Speaker:with food is medicine this
Speaker:is a great segue for uh all
Speaker:the things that we're doing
Speaker:of course but like let's
Speaker:let's dive into your book
Speaker:this is a new book yes um I
Speaker:want to hear about it it's
Speaker:okay I can't wait to grab a copy
Speaker:but she rises and thrives
Speaker:loving life in recovery.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:So my mission, right.
Speaker:And so, so this is my book.
Speaker:And so I have, right.
Speaker:So I have like all of these
Speaker:books that have been so
Speaker:beautiful and wonderful.
Speaker:And I was able to, you know, focus my,
Speaker:put my health coaching hat and really
Speaker:I published an eating clean cookbook.
Speaker:Like, I mean, you name it.
Speaker:I've been able to like,
Speaker:this has been my passion.
Speaker:It's been so beautiful to create these,
Speaker:these titles.
Speaker:And then my recovery journey
Speaker:started six and a half years ago.
Speaker:And this book has literally
Speaker:been on my mind since I found like,
Speaker:oh my gosh, it could be this simple.
Speaker:Like it could be this simple.
Speaker:Like, how could it be this simple?
Speaker:Cause you start feeling a
Speaker:little bit better every single day.
Speaker:And it's like,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:that momentum and the progress
Speaker:like builds on itself.
Speaker:And it's like, holy cow,
Speaker:this is actually working.
Speaker:Like we have to share this with the world.
Speaker:And so luckily I've been
Speaker:able to share it with so
Speaker:many people and see, and you know,
Speaker:and see and hear how it works.
Speaker:And so we boiled it down to
Speaker:these six pillars, the food, fitness, fun,
Speaker:fellowship, faith, and sleep.
Speaker:And super simple.
Speaker:Like,
Speaker:and even with the faith piece that
Speaker:can get sticky because people,
Speaker:like I have one client, she's like,
Speaker:I'm not, I'm Buddhist.
Speaker:I'm not, I'm, I'm,
Speaker:I don't want to read this.
Speaker:And I was like, no, you can, you can,
Speaker:you can still read it.
Speaker:Even if you worship a coconut,
Speaker:how about it?
Speaker:My whole goal is to help
Speaker:people not feel like
Speaker:they're carrying the burden
Speaker:of the world and that
Speaker:there's just some plan,
Speaker:whether it's the universe
Speaker:or God or whatever you
Speaker:deity you choose has a plan for you,
Speaker:like is in charge of the
Speaker:big scheme of things.
Speaker:Do you know what I mean?
Speaker:And so, yeah.
Speaker:I tell people I'm highly
Speaker:spiritual and I'm not very religious.
Speaker:And I just say, I call it Gus now.
Speaker:I got this from one of my dad's friends.
Speaker:God, universe, spirit.
Speaker:You can call it whatever you want.
Speaker:But that faith isn't,
Speaker:I'm preaching to the guy
Speaker:with the beard that's judging me stuff.
Speaker:No, there's a bigger...
Speaker:There's something bigger
Speaker:that's got the plan out
Speaker:there and that we're
Speaker:co-conspiring together, right?
Speaker:That's how it works.
Speaker:And when you get that,
Speaker:you get this awakening.
Speaker:So it's not that you have to
Speaker:have a belief of, you know,
Speaker:a deity or this or that,
Speaker:but it's this higher power
Speaker:that's controlling.
Speaker:Like, again,
Speaker:how do we know that Apple
Speaker:became an Apple?
Speaker:Like, that's just not my business.
Speaker:That's the universe.
Speaker:That's it.
Speaker:Joe Dispenza called it the
Speaker:loving intelligence, right?
Speaker:There's this intelligence in the world.
Speaker:Now the new age science calls it quantum,
Speaker:calls it these other things,
Speaker:but it's there.
Speaker:It's real.
Speaker:It's something that we can interact with.
Speaker:That's not something that's
Speaker:out of our control either.
Speaker:It's a both and.
Speaker:And so I love that you're
Speaker:bringing that into your pillars because-
Speaker:we do have to call it
Speaker:something and you've called it faith.
Speaker:And it's, it's,
Speaker:it's a beautiful thing
Speaker:because when you
Speaker:incorporate it into the whole picture,
Speaker:it becomes a, it becomes worth it.
Speaker:It becomes worthwhile in the journey.
Speaker:So I love that.
Speaker:Well, and so many of us, right.
Speaker:Cause we all have a past.
Speaker:Like that's one of the
Speaker:things I put in my book.
Speaker:Like I have really good news about past.
Speaker:Everybody has one, you know,
Speaker:like everybody's like, Oh my gosh,
Speaker:my past was so, was so awful.
Speaker:And it's like, okay,
Speaker:let's all move on.
Speaker:When we talk about faith,
Speaker:one of my biggest things is in my faith,
Speaker:I've been able to just find
Speaker:peace and give myself grace,
Speaker:give myself forgiveness.
Speaker:Let's stop with being nice to ourselves.
Speaker:Some of us are so hard on ourselves.
Speaker:Back to the
Speaker:You know, the I mean,
Speaker:all of the things that
Speaker:we're talking about are
Speaker:kind of forms of self-care.
Speaker:And a lot of us are so hard
Speaker:on ourselves that it's like, no,
Speaker:we don't deserve fun or we
Speaker:don't deserve this or we don't deserve.
Speaker:And it's like, holy cow.
Speaker:OK, let's back up a second.
Speaker:And right.
Speaker:Everybody has a past.
Speaker:There's I don't care who it is.
Speaker:They wish that they could go
Speaker:back and do something
Speaker:differently now that they know X, Y, Z.
Speaker:And so it's a lot of this
Speaker:human existence too is like,
Speaker:just like you said,
Speaker:like we're perfectly imperfect.
Speaker:Like we have to accept the fact that like,
Speaker:we're gonna mess up,
Speaker:we're gonna make mistakes.
Speaker:That's how we learn and grow.
Speaker:And so we move on, you know,
Speaker:hopefully having learned so
Speaker:that we do things
Speaker:differently in the future.
Speaker:But it's such a reprieve from this loop of,
Speaker:you know, negative talk,
Speaker:negative feedback,
Speaker:negative feelings that just
Speaker:kind of goes nowhere and keeps you stuck.
Speaker:So that was a big piece.
Speaker:And then from, you know,
Speaker:with all of the other
Speaker:pieces kind of focusing on simplicity,
Speaker:like in the fitness, it's all about like,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:ideally we want to be incorporating,
Speaker:you know, of the three,
Speaker:we want to focus on
Speaker:cardiovascular training,
Speaker:strength training and flexibility, right?
Speaker:But it doesn't need to be intense.
Speaker:And so like, even in my book,
Speaker:it's like the cardio, like go for a walk,
Speaker:which we should be doing anyway, you know,
Speaker:flexibility, stretch,
Speaker:like help your body feel
Speaker:like it's being moved in
Speaker:ways that feel great.
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:and what a great way for us to be
Speaker:able to spot a problem
Speaker:before it becomes a problem.
Speaker:You know, like if you can't move,
Speaker:my mom had had a serious
Speaker:problem stem from a back injury.
Speaker:And
Speaker:She didn't know about it
Speaker:until like she was gardening,
Speaker:moved the wrong way and bing, bing, boom.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:we had we had a hospitalization
Speaker:on our hands.
Speaker:And so it's like we want to
Speaker:be able to make sure that, you know,
Speaker:the body in motion remains in motion.
Speaker:And it's like your body wants to be well,
Speaker:it's designed to move.
Speaker:And so so whether it's the food,
Speaker:the fitness, the fun we spoke about,
Speaker:the fellowship we spoke
Speaker:about and then the sleep.
Speaker:is so huge.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:people negotiate on sleep all the
Speaker:time and say, you know, I mean,
Speaker:and I mean,
Speaker:even with bedtime kind of being like this,
Speaker:this negotiable time,
Speaker:like I love when I asked
Speaker:somebody what time they go
Speaker:to sleep and they're like, well, you know,
Speaker:on this day,
Speaker:it might be this time or on these days,
Speaker:it might be this time.
Speaker:It's like,
Speaker:we need to be providing our
Speaker:body with the time that it
Speaker:needs in order to...
Speaker:There's so many
Speaker:physiological processes
Speaker:that happen at night and
Speaker:only while our brains are shut down.
Speaker:And it's like,
Speaker:we need to be able to
Speaker:provide that time where it's like,
Speaker:there's just no stimulation.
Speaker:We just need to be immobile and quiet.
Speaker:And so it's kind of like...
Speaker:So the book is a guide, right?
Speaker:But then I want to...
Speaker:I'm just on a mission to go
Speaker:around the world and help, you know,
Speaker:hurting people find peace
Speaker:and find hope in that, like,
Speaker:just like we were saying
Speaker:about this being free,
Speaker:none of these things cost anything.
Speaker:I mean, obviously, there's going to be,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:things that you can buy like a
Speaker:yoga class or a paddle board,
Speaker:but you can get outside and
Speaker:move for free.
Speaker:And you can eat clean,
Speaker:whole foods for very inexpensively.
Speaker:And there's so many
Speaker:different things that we
Speaker:can be doing just to
Speaker:help our body and brain heal.
Speaker:And that's hopefully what,
Speaker:that's my hope with this
Speaker:book is that it gives
Speaker:people the ideas and makes
Speaker:it so that it's super
Speaker:simple and not overwhelming anymore.
Speaker:And it's that,
Speaker:I think that's the big piece
Speaker:here is like understanding these aren't,
Speaker:this isn't overwhelming.
Speaker:And yes,
Speaker:I have a whole signature speech on
Speaker:sleep itself, right?
Speaker:Because it is the number one,
Speaker:the number two,
Speaker:and the number three longevity tool.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:If you want to put three years of good,
Speaker:vibrant health on your lifespan,
Speaker:then you should figure out
Speaker:how to nail some sleep better.
Speaker:Like track it, measure it, do the thing.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Especially because we got
Speaker:these things that are
Speaker:keeping us distracted all the time.
Speaker:And every single screen is
Speaker:like high noon to your brain, right?
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:There you go.
Speaker:If you, if you nail sleep,
Speaker:lots of things happen.
Speaker:So I'm glad you're sticking it in and it,
Speaker:it didn't have to have an F in it.
Speaker:It's like,
Speaker:you can highlight that because again,
Speaker:simple doesn't mean easy,
Speaker:but it is impactful.
Speaker:And, and yes, debunking these things is,
Speaker:Bleep hygiene is free.
Speaker:Yes,
Speaker:you might need to buy a red light bulb.
Speaker:My wife thinks I'm crazy.
Speaker:crazy sometimes because I'm
Speaker:walking around with like a
Speaker:headlamp with the red light
Speaker:on because I want no lights
Speaker:on in my house after dark
Speaker:because I know my circadian
Speaker:rhythm will get shot and
Speaker:because I've led a high
Speaker:stress life sleep is
Speaker:important to me but also
Speaker:I'm a light sleeper so
Speaker:there's certain things I
Speaker:need in order to calm
Speaker:myself down two hours
Speaker:before bed no screens right so let's
Speaker:But can we hold ourselves to
Speaker:that knowing that it's just
Speaker:that instant gratification
Speaker:that people need and want?
Speaker:But it's like when the
Speaker:proof's in the pudding, guys,
Speaker:like when you do this work
Speaker:with consistency, you will feel better.
Speaker:You will do better.
Speaker:You will be better and you
Speaker:will feel more whole and
Speaker:more happy and more fun.
Speaker:So where do people get your book?
Speaker:So we're going to be launched.
Speaker:So five, twenty seven, twenty five.
Speaker:So just at the end of this month,
Speaker:May twenty seventh is.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Is the launch date.
Speaker:So I'm very excited.
Speaker:So it's going to be available on Amazon,
Speaker:but also on my website.
Speaker:She rises and thrives dot com.
Speaker:Cool.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:Book is launching.
Speaker:Whenever this episode drops,
Speaker:we'll figure out how we can
Speaker:promote that for you.
Speaker:She rises and thrives.com.
Speaker:Go find where she is.
Speaker:Is that where people can
Speaker:find out how they can work with you?
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:We're doing group coaching,
Speaker:which ties in all of that
Speaker:community and everything.
Speaker:I'm so, so, so excited.
Speaker:Everything is...
Speaker:Like I was actually speaking
Speaker:with somebody yesterday.
Speaker:He's handling some of the
Speaker:promotion side of things.
Speaker:And she was like,
Speaker:this is so cool that
Speaker:everything is so affordable.
Speaker:And it's like,
Speaker:I don't want any I want
Speaker:everybody to have the most
Speaker:easily accessible, just like you said,
Speaker:like no excuses,
Speaker:like everything can be so easy and so.
Speaker:you know, like,
Speaker:let's just get back to
Speaker:basics and let's just learn
Speaker:the basics and move on and
Speaker:make this life as amazing
Speaker:as we possibly can.
Speaker:Cause that's what it's here for.
Speaker:We're supposed to learn, grow, heal,
Speaker:help one another and love.
Speaker:And it's like, let's do it.
Speaker:Those are words to live by for sure.
Speaker:I loved this conversation, Britt.
Speaker:I loved how we are
Speaker:connecting on these levels.
Speaker:I no doubt think we'll be
Speaker:working together in other
Speaker:respects because these
Speaker:messages are so true.
Speaker:They're so powerful and
Speaker:they're so impactful because...
Speaker:I think we've gotten to this
Speaker:complex world and we just
Speaker:assume that our health and
Speaker:wellbeing is complex these days.
Speaker:We were talking about
Speaker:regenerative medicine the
Speaker:other day and like exosomes
Speaker:and stuff like that,
Speaker:but it really can be simple.
Speaker:It really is simple.
Speaker:you know, I loved your energy.
Speaker:I love how you're just
Speaker:bringing light into the
Speaker:world and in ways that we've,
Speaker:we've sort of forgotten in our, our ways.
Speaker:So this has been so much fun.
Speaker:I'm so,
Speaker:so glad that you were able to hang
Speaker:out with me for a little while.
Speaker:I appreciate you.
Speaker:Thank you so much.
Speaker:This is, this really has,
Speaker:this has been a blast.
Speaker:So I'm really,
Speaker:really glad that we were
Speaker:able to connect and make this happen.
Speaker:So go, go check out her book,
Speaker:go check out her website.
Speaker:She rises and thrives.com.
Speaker:And we will,
Speaker:No doubt,
Speaker:figure something out later on in life.
Speaker:Fantastic.
Speaker:Well, this is a wrap, guys.
Speaker:Until next time, stay well.
